Can we get Frosh removed?

EL1227 · Jun 17, 2017

Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

J1911 said:
Democrats know their base overwhelms the entire state in their favor.

This is all just pissing in the wind.

You're never going to get rid of frosh, Miller or any other Marxist maggot in Maryland.

Could it be that the great unwashed in the PRofMD have just become complacent from that same feeling of hopelessness. Then it's time to change tactics.

What we have found is that public shaming has had an effect, especially when it's in-their-face and on their home turf. When Frosh had to make the walk of shame from the parking garage to the State House, he tried his damnedest to maintain a smarmy grin which turned into a grimace when no one would shake his hand. And I'm sure that more than one of his Birkenstock-wearin', Ben&Jerry's-eatin' supporters at the ice cream social asked him why we were protesting.

It's no longer politics, it's personal ... Alinsky-style.

Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

He was speechless ... His cat-in-the-hat buddy did all of his taking as he hugged another mindless supporter.

teratos · Jun 17, 2017

The Emoluments clause has more to do with accepting titles of Nobility or gifts of value. I don't see anything in there about business arrangements. A foreign government paying a fair market price for services rendered is NOT a gift.

The law of unintended consequences: If this lawsuit is somehow successful, no business man who has ever accepted a dime from a foreign government for any good or service will be able to run for office. :thumbsup:

swinokur · Jun 17, 2017

Mark Levin said it's a nothing burger

EL1227 · Jun 17, 2017

teratos said:
The Emoluments clause has more to do with accepting titles of Nobility or gifts of value. I don't see anything in there about business arrangements. A foreign government paying a fair market price for services rendered is NOT a gift.

The law of unintended consequences: If this lawsuit is somehow successful, no business man who has ever accepted a dime from a foreign government for any good or service will be able to run for office.

Don't fall for the 'legalese' trap. The lawsuit isn't about the emoluments clause, despite Frosh's pronouncements. It's about delegitimizing Trump in the media and thus the eye's of the great unwashed.

Alinsky Rule #12 (or #13 in some publications)

It will be shot down at SCOTUS (the 'progressive' 4th Circuit won't), but by that time the damage will have been done. If the slow wheels of justice are followed, Frosh and his progressive sycophants win ... it's their ONLY play. A SCOTUS win for We The People would be anti-climatic.

We need to turn Alinsky's rules against him and watch him squirm (See my previous post)

teratos · Jun 17, 2017

Oh, I know. Frosh isn't stupid, he's just an ideologue whose ideology is incongruous with the Constitution. Problem is, he has to abide by the Constitution so he does all he can to twist the true intent. He counts on the public being ignorant and taking his word for it, or being sympathetic to his goals.

EL1227 · Jun 17, 2017

teratos said:
Oh, I know. Frosh isn't stupid, he's just an ideologue whose ideology is incongruous with the Constitution. Problem is, he has to abide by the Constitution so he does all he can to twist the true intent. He counts on the public being ignorant and taking his word for it, or being sympathetic to his goals.

Thinking back to earlier Patriot Picket days, wasn't it curious that Frosh sent Spinny Vinny to buy our sign ? Frosh wants to stay above the fray and sent his public mouthpiece to run interference for him on gun-control.

Frosh doesn't want to be perceived as a partisan, progressive ideologue, and this encounter was an early indication. Control the narrative and the visuals.

Jim12 · Jun 17, 2017

dogbone said:
Out of state money isn't going to save us. Get involved locally. There are at least six active Republican clubs in Baltimore County alone. They are all working to raise funds to support both local and statewide candidates.

Are they all arguing among themselves and working against each other, in the finest of Republican traditions?

BeoBill · Jun 17, 2017

dogbone said:
Out of state money isn't going to save us. Get involved locally. There are at least six active Republican clubs in Baltimore County alone. They are all working to raise funds to support both local and statewide candidates.

Find a club near you and get busy.

Money is money. One person can do only so much locally, especially without $$. Just look at all the havoc Bloomberg is causing with his money bombs.

BeoBill · Jun 17, 2017

teratos said:
The Emoluments clause has more to do with accepting titles of Nobility or gifts of value. I don't see anything in there about business arrangements. A foreign government paying a fair market price for services rendered is NOT a gift.

The law of unintended consequences: If this lawsuit is somehow successful, no business man who has ever accepted a dime from a foreign government for any good or service will be able to run for office.

And EVERY govt. official appointed during the -0- administration who accepted and declared a foreign gift (as well as Congresscritters) will be liable/prosecutable as well.

Shoe = other foot.

BeoBill · Jun 17, 2017

EL1227 said:
Don't fall for the 'legalese' trap. The lawsuit isn't about the emoluments clause, despite Frosh's pronouncements. It's about delegitimizing Trump in the media and thus the eye's of the great unwashed.

Alinsky Rule #12 (or #13 in some publications)

It will be shot down at SCOTUS (the 'progressive' 4th Circuit won't), but by that time the damage will have been done. If the slow wheels of justice are followed, Frosh and his progressive sycophants win ... it's their ONLY play. A SCOTUS win for We The People would be anti-climatic.

We need to turn Alinsky's rules against him and watch him squirm (See my previous post)

We need to spread "little things" like this

EL1227 said:
Don't fall for the 'legalese' trap. The lawsuit isn't about the emoluments clause, despite Frosh's pronouncements. It's about delegitimizing Trump in the media and thus the eye's of the great unwashed.

Alinsky Rule #12 (or #13 in some publications)

It will be shot down at SCOTUS (the 'progressive' 4th Circuit won't), but by that time the damage will have been done. If the slow wheels of justice are followed, Frosh and his progressive sycophants win ... it's their ONLY play. A SCOTUS win for We The People would be anti-climatic.

We need to turn Alinsky's rules against him and watch him squirm (See my previous post)

far and wide to have any real effect.

hillbilly grandpa · Jun 17, 2017

Alinksy's "rules" aren't things or thingies. They're observations on how a group acts in the acquisition and exercise of power. The operative word here is ACTS. We're pretty robust in the opining department but kinda' thin in the doing department. (Apologies to PP) When we ramp up our action we can count of precipitating reactions. And, as the "old man" said with great regularity, "The action is in the reaction."

Let's get busy!

teratos · Jun 17, 2017

BeoBill said:
And EVERY govt. official appointed during the -0- administration who accepted and declared a foreign gift (as well as Congresscritters) will be liable/prosecutable as well.

Shoe = other foot.

Kind of like when Harry Reid thought it was a good idea to confirm judges with a simple majority. Oops.

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