Deer hunt dilemma

kraftyone · Dec 14, 2014

I have just been invited to go deer hunting with my wife's uncle. He owns a 300 acre ranch in South Dakota with rights to hunt the 1000 acre ranch next to it. My dilemma is that i don't have any rifles capable of killing deer out to 400 yds. I only bow hunt here in maryland. And all my rifles are C&R mausers and mosins. I have two different choices I am considering. I have an AR stripped lower that I was going to do a precision gun build with in .223. Are there any ar15 compatible calipers capable of having the muzzle energy to kill deer at 400yds? My second option is to simply Go and buy a bolt gun I was considering a Remington 700 in 300 win mag. Please feel free to give me any and all opinions I am open to all suggestions just give me some facts to help back em up.

iH8DemLibz · Dec 14, 2014

AR is a non starter.

Get yourself a dedicated bolt gun.

7mm magnum would shoot flat enough and still have effective energy.

A .270 would work too.

And stay the hell away from anything 700.

Browning!

Billman · Dec 14, 2014

I'm unaware of any AR15 based caliber which will get the job done at 400 yards. A bolt gun chambered in 300 will definitely serve you well.
Surely somebody will be along soon to disagree and discount my opinion. That's just the way things are around here. :sad20:

kraftyone · Dec 14, 2014

iH8DemLibz said:
AR is a non starter.

Get yourself a dedicated bolt gun.

7mm magnum would shoot flat enough and still have effective energy.

And stay the hell away from anything 700.

I have shot 7mm mags before and liked it. What's wrong with the 700's and what would you'll you reccomend?

kraftyone · Dec 14, 2014

Billman said:
I'm unaware of any AR15 based caliber which will get the job done at 400 yards. A bolt gun chambered in 300 will definitely serve you well.
Surely somebody will be along soon to disagree and discount my opinion. That's just the way things are around here.

That's why I posed the question. I can read all day long but if people give me there real world experiences I can add that too my knowledge base.

engineerbrian · Dec 14, 2014

Does your wife's uncle have a gun you can barrow?

iH8DemLibz · Dec 14, 2014

kraftyone said:
I have shot 7mm mags before and liked it. What's wrong with the 700's and what would you'll you reccomend?

Some of them have a tendency to go bang when they're not supposed to.

Huge recall for triggers.

Other Remington bolt guns have had their bolt handles break loose at the braze point on the bolt body.

Buy a Browning A-Bolt and never look back.

Alphabrew · Dec 14, 2014

Would 6.8 spc not work at that range?

kraftyone · Dec 14, 2014

engineerbrian said:
Does your wife's uncle have a gun you can barrow?

He has many guns but why miss out on a reason to buy another gun

iH8DemLibz · Dec 14, 2014

Alphabrew said:
Would 6.8 spc not work at that range?

Not with 550 foot pounds of energy at 400 yards.

Only 1,080 at 200 yards.

Billman · Dec 14, 2014

iH8DemLibz said:
Some of them have a tendency to go bang when they're not supposed to.

Huge recall for triggers.

Other Remington bolt guns have had their bolt handles break loose at the braze point on the bolt body.

Buy a Browning A-Bolt and never look back.

I like the way this guy thinks. I've hunted with a Browning 7mm Magnum for a long time. It's served me well with Caribou, Deer and next year if all goes well Elk.

budman93 · Dec 14, 2014

Look into a Ruger Hawkeye or American.

AssMan · Dec 14, 2014

What's wrong with your Mauser?

engineerbrian · Dec 14, 2014

kraftyone said:
He has many guns but why miss out on a reason to buy another gun

What was i thinking :whack:

Carry on

AssMan · Dec 14, 2014

Also, consider a 6.5G upper if you want to use an AR.

kraftyone · Dec 14, 2014

snallygaster said:
What's wrong with your Mauser?

I love my k98 but I refuse to put a scope on it and I can't see well enough to shoot 400yds with open sights

TheRealJimDavis · Dec 14, 2014

If you want a budget 300 win mag that's good out to 400, I'd recommend a tikka t3. I own one and love it. Same cost as an upper. Ish.

outrider58 · Dec 14, 2014

No offence but, are you capable of pulling off a killing shot at 400+ yds. with a rifle you are not accustomed to? If yes then, anything in a 300 win mag or even better, 300 win short mag will serve you well. just depends on how deep your pockets are. With bolt guns, you usually get what you pay for. Look at Winchester, Weatherby, Remington, what else?

kraftyone · Dec 14, 2014

outrider58 said:
No offence but, are you capable of pulling off a killing shot at 400+ yds. with a rifle you are not accustomed to? If yes then, anything in a 300 win mag or even better, 300 win short mag will serve you well. just depends on how deep your pockets are. With bolt guns, you usually get what you pay for. Look at Winchester, Weatherby, Remington, what else?

I am buying the rifle now for next years deer season and plan on shooting a lot to get used to it plus working up a hand load.

kraftyone · Dec 14, 2014

budman93 said:
Look into a Ruger Hawkeye or American.

I was actually looking at both of those

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