Can anyone identify these 105 shells?

wbw2123 · Jun 4, 2016

They kinda look like they've been modified to be organ pipes.

240 towles · Jun 4, 2016

Huckleberry · Jun 4, 2016

Willy Petes/Smoke for Howitzer M2A1 is the first of the Towed 105's

Missing their fuses and shipping plugs.

Sorry for the 1st response, thought you were asking what guns used the rounds

240 towles · Jun 4, 2016

5.56blaster · Jun 4, 2016

They look like training bombs. The military still uses them. They have a marker charge that goes in the front. Fly around and drop them on training areas they don't want destroyed. The ones they use now are orange or blue and are very little compared to the real thing. Maybe look up dropped ordnance instead of fired. Just a guess. Or a pipe organ?

Huckleberry · Jun 4, 2016

Dummy rounds are yellow or blue. Those were real rounds until the were demilled

White is residue is the WP. Need a Mr Wizard type to say if it is inert or not.

240 towles · Jun 4, 2016

jjbduke2004 · Jun 4, 2016

They're not the right size for 105s. M1-type 105mm ammo is issued as semifixed: the brass case with primer and propellant and the projectile are shipped together. The projectile can be removed from the brass case to remove powder charges (for lower muzzle velocity) and then refitted.

The entire cartridge case and projectile would be able to fit in that box.

Also there's no rotating band (usually copper, to engage the rifling and seal the bore).

j_h_smith · Jun 4, 2016

Just a wild guess, could they be some type of field training tool?

Straightshooter · Jun 4, 2016

Looks nothing like any round I ever handled. I'm going with organ pipes in a Howitzer ammo box. Howitzer cases are the same diameter from base to the rim. These things are tapered.

Here's mine.

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jjbduke2004 · Jun 4, 2016

Here's what they should look like:

Two fiber tubes in a crate:
http://373642b28917a7549061-678152e5a79a179c98d5779bc68facf5.r45.cf3.rackcdn.com/589.jpg

Shell with crate:
http://www.war44.com/misc/images/5/105mm_howitzer.gif

And here's what the different paint jobs look like:
http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=42357&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1299504124

Smoke's in the middle.

outrider58 · Jun 4, 2016

Those are something else all together. Not canon rounds. Someone used the arty box to store those contraptions(whatever the hell they turn out to be) in. That's my SWAG.

traveller · Jun 4, 2016

Blow into the bottom. You'll find out whether they are organ pipes. Awfully short for their girth (I know, 'that's what she said')

Fox123 · Jun 4, 2016

I'm going to guess someone's art/music project that they tried and found the steel didn't make such a pleasant note.

metalman3006 · Jun 4, 2016

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pipe-Organ-...718031?hash=item1eb1d7a2cf:g:zUcAAOSwMN9XQ1Ck

Blacksmith101 · Jun 4, 2016

Are you sure they are galvanized steel? Have you tried a magnet? Pipe organ metal was an alloy of Lead Tin and Copper but some were made of Zinc which could be mistaken for galvanized coating.

Metal pipes are usually made of lead; for increased rigidity it is alloyed with tin along with trace amounts of antimony and copper. The percentage of each metal in the alloy influences the characteristics of the resulting pipe. A high proportion of tin results in a slightly brighter colouring. In addition, high amounts of tin give a gleaming and long-lasting polish, which may be desired if the pipe is clearly visible. The cost of each metal is also a factor, as tin is more expensive than lead. Cost considerations may also lead to the use of the inferior rolled zinc especially for the lower tones that take a lot of material.

Huckleberry · Jun 4, 2016

ILB a Redass Baboon
MR Pipe Organs

traveller · Jun 4, 2016

Those are the cut off 'feet' from some low register church organ pipes. Unmolested, they would probably be about 12-16ft long.

Can anyone identify these 105 shells?

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