Grand Power Stribog SP9A1

rockstarr · Oct 24, 2019

BBestPawn said:
Okay, we are setup. Which brace option do you guys prefer? The folding brace or the PDW collapsible?

if your talking about the gearhead works model brace, id think the sb tactical would be much less harsh on the shoulder, If accidently shouldered that is

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engineerbrian · Oct 24, 2019

rockstarr said:
if your talking about the gearhead works model brace, id think the sb tactical would be much less harsh on the shoulder, If accidently shouldered that is .

The GearHead brace is a problem for 2 reasons. First there is almost zero cheek weld on the skinny rail. Second, unless you put a substantial riser on your red dot, you’ll really have to scrunch down to get a proper line of sight. So much that its uncomfortable to shoot.

I’ve shot both and the SB Tactical is much better.

rockstarr · Oct 24, 2019

engineerbrian said:
The GearHead brace is a problem for 2 reasons. First there is almost zero cheek weld on the skinny rail. Second, unless you put a substantial riser on your red dot, you’ll really have to scrunch down to get a proper line of sight. So much that its uncomfortable to shoot.

I’ve shot both and the SB Tactical is much better.

You put it much more eloquently than I could

Boss94 · Oct 25, 2019

I'm a pdw collapsible brace kinda guy. lol

PIPES · Oct 28, 2019

These look awesome. Kind of waiting for more people to test the waters before jumping in though.

rockstarr · Oct 29, 2019

random thought, anyone have an idea why PCC like these or even a lot of ar-9, are so damn pricey?

jimbobborg · Oct 29, 2019

rockstarr said:
random thought, anyone have an idea why PCC like these or even a lot of ar-9, are so damn pricey?

I've asked that before and no one could give me a straight answer.

erwos · Oct 29, 2019

jimbobborg said:
I've asked that before and no one could give me a straight answer.

AR-9s are not standardized to anything like the same degree that AR-5.56s are. That's the reason. They are also, to some extent, evolving to a much greater degree - it's only recently that we've seen non-blowback (CMMG's system) and better extractors (AR-15-style) come into play, and both of those were major developments.

Further, making them work is also a little trickier than some people give them credit for, especially if you're going off the beaten path at all. I went through an entire saga recently where I replaced a whole bunch of action system parts in my home-built AR-9 SBR before I finally got it working acceptably - and some of the mods in the end required cutting springs and dremeling the lower to make the BCG fit correctly. It's a nice shooter now, but it sure didn't start that way.

rockstarr · Oct 29, 2019

erwos said:
AR-9s are not standardized to anything like the same degree that AR-5.56s are. That's the reason. They are also, to some extent, evolving to a much greater degree - it's only recently that we've seen non-blowback (CMMG's system) and better extractors (AR-15-style) come into play, and both of those were major developments.

Further, making them work is also a little trickier than some people give them credit for, especially if you're going off the beaten path at all. I went through an entire saga recently where I replaced a whole bunch of action system parts in my home-built AR-9 SBR before I finally got it working acceptably - and some of the mods in the end required cutting springs and dremeling the lower to make the BCG fit correctly. It's a nice shooter now, but it sure didn't start that way.

and that's kind of why I was wondering about it. Just never made sense why a plastic gun like the scorpion cost what it does, and that's not even the worst culprit. B&T ghm 9 and the jp enterprises pcc are even worse.

Its like damn , you can get "Gucci model " ar-15's for what those cost and have money left over.

Stoveman · Oct 29, 2019

rockstarr said:
random thought, anyone have an idea why PCC like these or even a lot of ar-9, are so damn pricey?

I would guess that the popularity of action shooting sports has at least something to do with the pricing.

jimbobborg · Oct 30, 2019

erwos said:
Further, making them work is also a little trickier than some people give them credit for, especially if you're going off the beaten path at all.

My three year old 9mm AR still isn't 100%.

erwos · Oct 30, 2019

jimbobborg said:
My three year old 9mm AR still isn't 100%.

I wrote a whole blog post about my saga:
https://hebrewhammerblog.com/2019/10/04/the-saga-of-how-i-fixed-my-ar-9-sbr/

PCCs are a ton of fun, but they are finicky little SOBs. Also, the SP9A1 also regularly sells for ~$650-$700, and that is really not a ton of money for an imported, well-designed 9mm rifle (well, "pistol"). The flood of cheap ARs has really distorted what prices look like for literally everything else in the market.

rockstarr · Oct 30, 2019

erwos said:
I wrote a whole blog post about my saga:
https://hebrewhammerblog.com/2019/10/04/the-saga-of-how-i-fixed-my-ar-9-sbr/

PCCs are a ton of fun, but they are finicky little SOBs. Also, the SP9A1 also regularly sells for ~$650-$700, and that is really not a ton of money for an imported, well-designed 9mm rifle (well, "pistol"). The flood of cheap ARs has really distorted what prices look like for literally everything else in the market.

I would agree here. the Stribog seems a little better priced for what you get compared to the others. I'm actually taking a hard look at the sbtactical braced model. Shame we cant get these damn things to 29 OAL to make sbr's

Edit: cant get to 29 OAL with out going to far lengths and using magical tricks...

erwos · Oct 30, 2019

I don't know, it's 14.74" with no adapter, no buffer tube, etc. If you were willing to perma-pin a muzzle device, use an A5 tube, and/or use a Magpul ACS stock, I bet you could get it there.

jimbobborg · Oct 30, 2019

erwos said:
I wrote a whole blog post about my saga:
https://hebrewhammerblog.com/2019/10/04/the-saga-of-how-i-fixed-my-ar-9-sbr/

I have multiple threads on here about mine. I still have it, it runs about 98% of the time.

Bountied · Oct 30, 2019

You lost me at reciprocating bolt charging handle. I'll stick with my CZ. I had a chance to shoot my BIL's MP5 clone and the roller delayed blowback is much smoother than the blow back action of my AR9 or the CZ. However the MP5 is much heavier and doesn't have a LRBHO. Non reciprocating and LRBHO are huge for me personally.

rockstarr · Oct 30, 2019

erwos said:
I don't know, it's 14.74" with no adapter, no buffer tube, etc. If you were willing to perma-pin a muzzle device, use an A5 tube, and/or use a Magpul ACS stock, I bet you could get it there.

I bought my scorpion evo in rifle form due to the same idea of it being a real pita to get to 29 inches from pistol form to make 29 OAL.

I kind of wish I just bought the braced pistol and been done with it now. Only option is likely have the barrel cut on the rifle and then pay stamp as I don't know of any other places that sell barrels for evos but cz, which makes a pistol length and the rifle length as far as I know.

DaytonaGreg · Nov 17, 2019

You sell the NEW STRIBOG and it’s legal to buy & own in MD?
If so, how much for the basic package, which I assume has 3 10 round mags???

Thanks guys.

DaytonaGreg · Nov 17, 2019

BBestPawn said:
Okay, we are setup. Which brace option do you guys prefer? The folding brace or the PDW collapsible?

So do You sell the NEW STRIBOG and it’s legal to buy & own in MD?
If so, how much for the basic package, which I assume has 3 10 round mags???

Thanks guys.

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