Form 1 $100 suppressor

md_al · Apr 19, 2020

OLM-Medic said:
I'm debating on if I want to do aluminum baffles for a .22lr form 1 can. I hear they are a BITCH to clean. Anyone have experience?

The Dip method discussion thread about July 2019 in the Watercooler:
Here you go way back from MDS 2017 The Arsenal > NFA/Class 3/Title II > Suppressor Cleaning, ugh!

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Originally Posted by Jollyllama View Post

Never mind. Well done, Internet Jedi.

His method works well. Tumblers can be purchased fairly inexpensively and the time savings, plus how effective they are make it a worthy investment. Over time the .22 builds up lead deposits. You may be able to scrape carbon and fouling off, but a day will come when it starts to clog up. That will be when the tumbler will work.

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Originally Posted by aps410 View Post

Found a copy in an website archive:

http://web.archive.org/web/201611040...-cleaning.html

md_al said:
I skipped the oven part. I just soak it in the Dot5 solution then let it drip dry. Use the suppressor then once I get home all the crud just wipes off. Anything left behind can be removed with a toothpick. Then soak again 2-3 days before using the suppressor again.

One time I fired a bunch of .22 Thunderduds on a GM9 suppressor and forgot to dip it in Dot5 when I got home. After 2 weeks I could not even take the suppressor apart. So I soaked it overnight in Dot5 and was able to take it apart the next day. I'm lazy so I just order Dot5 from Amazon. I am still on the first bottle of Dot5.

solarpower44 · Apr 19, 2020

OLM-Medic said:
apparently the ultrasonic cleaners and many solvents are bad for aluminum

I have been using Simple Green for Aircraft with no issues

calicojack · Apr 19, 2020

Aluminum or SS, 22LR is filthy and will make a mess either way. Is SS any less likely to sized up than AL?

calicojack · Apr 19, 2020

md_al said:
The Dip method discussion thread about July 2019 in the Watercooler:
Here you go way back from MDS 2017 The Arsenal > NFA/Class 3/Title II > Suppressor Cleaning, ugh!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jollyllama View Post

Never mind. Well done, Internet Jedi.

His method works well. Tumblers can be purchased fairly inexpensively and the time savings, plus how effective they are make it a worthy investment. Over time the .22 builds up lead deposits. You may be able to scrape carbon and fouling off, but a day will come when it starts to clog up. That will be when the tumbler will work.
http://web.archive.org/web/201611040...-cleaning.html

What do you use for tumbler medium? Not stainless steel pins, right?

Pinecone · Apr 20, 2020

outrider58 said:
Supposedly SG Aviation doesn't. Any thoughts on that?

If it is for aviation, it is pretty safe around aluminum. A LOT of aluminum in aircraft.

calicojack · Apr 21, 2020

solarpower44 said:
I have been using Simple Green for Aircraft with no issues

I just got some of this; what concentration do you use?

solarpower44 · Apr 21, 2020

calicojack said:
I just got some of this; what concentration do you use?

I have been using a 10:1 ratio and it cleans my .22 suppressor no problem and no damage to gun parts and finishes.

1time · Apr 21, 2020

I use a soda blaster. Makes pretty quick work of baffles.

calicojack · Apr 26, 2020

solarpower44 said:
I have been using a 10:1 ratio and it cleans my .22 suppressor no problem and no damage to gun parts and finishes.

Gonna give this a try - thanks!

md_al · Apr 28, 2020

calicojack said:
What do you use for tumbler medium? Not stainless steel pins, right?

For .22 and 9mm:
I don't have a tumbler so I've never done that part of the cleaning process. All I do is soak it in Dot5 a day or more before shooting and soak it in again after shooting. Most of the gunk wipes off. The rest I use a toothpick to clean out. I don't even do the oven process. Works for me.

Tungsten · Apr 28, 2020

Since this thread spans a few years I'll ask an updated newb question:
Are there any kits in stainless or Titanium that I can machine into a suppressor or am I stuck with the cheap Aluminum solvent traps that are only good for subs or .22? I'm very close to dipping a toe into getting a couple stamps, but would like something for 5.56, 300BLK, and 9mm. All rifles, preferably able to handle supersonic as well as subs.

And yes, I'm leaning towards manufacturing one after getting a stamp, not buying a complete one from a manufacturer.

mtlcafan79 · Apr 28, 2020

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipme...ixed-barrel-and-Booster-Adapters/118-1991102/

OLM-Medic · Apr 29, 2020

Tungsten said:
Since this thread spans a few years I'll ask an updated newb question:
Are there any kits in stainless or Titanium that I can machine into a suppressor or am I stuck with the cheap Aluminum solvent traps that are only good for subs or .22? I'm very close to dipping a toe into getting a couple stamps, but would like something for 5.56, 300BLK, and 9mm. All rifles, preferably able to handle supersonic as well as subs.

And yes, I'm leaning towards manufacturing one after getting a stamp, not buying a complete one from a manufacturer.

I'm sure Diversified Machinery and similar sites have those options you can piece together. Took a look on https://form1suppressor.boards.net sometime. They have a lot of info.

I think the aluminum kits are fine for 9mm. The issue with a lot of the rifle builds in SS is they are damn heavy compared to commercial kits.

joemac · May 6, 2020

Question about form 1 question 11b, asking about felonies and other crimes. Question reads EVER. Does this include juvenile record? I have something on my juvenile record that qualifies, does that mean I'm ineligible?

Steel Hunter · May 6, 2020

joemac said:
Question about form 1 question 11b, asking about felonies and other crimes. Question reads EVER. Does this include juvenile record? I have something on my juvenile record that qualifies, does that mean I'm ineligible?

Consult a lawyer before you file anything. The word ever does imply within your entire lifetime.

babalou · May 6, 2020

try this

Tungsten said:
Since this thread spans a few years I'll ask an updated newb question:
Are there any kits in stainless or Titanium that I can machine into a suppressor or am I stuck with the cheap Aluminum solvent traps that are only good for subs or .22? I'm very close to dipping a toe into getting a couple stamps, but would like something for 5.56, 300BLK, and 9mm. All rifles, preferably able to handle supersonic as well as subs.

And yes, I'm leaning towards manufacturing one after getting a stamp, not buying a complete one from a manufacturer.

https://www.hawkinnovativetech.com/product-category/solvent-trap/

https://diversifiedmachine.us/shop/

seungkoo · May 27, 2020

Nice thread! I have 2 cans in jail since April 2020. I got long ways to go so in the meantime I want to build a 30cal can.

Fox123 · May 27, 2020

https://www.quietbore.com/product/5-56-30-cal-kit/

MightyWarMonger · Dec 8, 2020

Well here is a link to an article about people claiming that this behavior is being used for illegal purposes (witch it likely is to some degree), I found it looking for parts, Some of the comments at the bottom of it are something. lol I brought the PAP up to the kitchen table to get the SN for the form 1 and my 9yr old son goes wow I haven't seen that in a while we need to go to the range kinda made my day.

DaemonAssassin · Dec 8, 2020

QuietBore is now requiring you to show proof of a approved Form 1, before they will even ship you a single thing.

https://www.quietbore.com/2020/10/14/how-to-order-a-form-1-kit-from-quietbore/

How to order a form 1 kit from Quietbore

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