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Old March 9th, 2018, 06:49 AM #11
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Winchester SX for waterfowl and Saiga-12 for fun... all depends on what you will be doing with it.
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Old March 9th, 2018, 06:54 AM #12
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Molot VEPR 12
With a 25 round drum mag! Fully loaded it weighs as much as a small child.
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Old March 9th, 2018, 07:01 AM #13
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With a 25 round drum mag! Fully loaded it weighs as much as a small child.
Isn't the 25 round drum about the size of a small child?
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Fabarm XLR5.
Not cheap, but best of the bunch.

https://fabarmusa.com/xlr5-velocity-ar/
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Fabarm XLR5.
Not cheap, but best of the bunch.

https://fabarmusa.com/xlr5-velocity-ar/
Have you ever tried the Fabsroman 2Ę shotgun? On paper they don't seem too appealing, but hands on, they are really good.
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If you just want a regular semi-auto shotgun, I recommend the Browning Auto-5 or the less expensive Remington Model 11 (or one of the Savage-made copies). They are mechanical works of art, made from solid billets of steel, solid walnut, and high quality spring steel. They will outlast you, your children, and your children's children. I have a 1927 Model 11 that my grandfather got used in the 1940's. He used it until he traded it to my dad sometime in the 70's, and then traded back when he didn't like the Ithaca 37 he bought. He then used it until his passing in 1980's. My dad then used it until he retired it in the 1990's. I now have it and it's fully functional after at least tens of thousands of rounds through it. Shoots a slug like a rifle with a Full choke, to boot.

I also resurrected a 1923 Remington Model 11 that was in a basement for an undetermined amount of time. I originally wanted it for parts, but I found the bore to be excellent. However, the exterior of the barrel and receiver was completely covered in pitting and it was DIRTY inside. I also found that carrier spring was broken, probably the reason is was banished to a basement for decades. I bought a replacement spring on Sarco, installed it, performed a light cleaning of the action, and shot a slug through it. First shot: fired but the action jammed open (barrel and bolt). I got it closed and lubed with military LSA oil. Second shot and each one since, it has worked flawlessly.

IMO, the Auto-5 design is probably the most reliable semi-auto shotgun ever made. I would not want one if you want something tactical, but for just a semi-auto shotgun, you can't really go wrong if you understand how they work.
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Benelli M1 Super 90...an unstoppable machine of a shotgun.
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I'm a beretta fan, it's sleek, reliable, cycles really fast, and being a gas gun recoil is softer than inertia. I beat the hell out of my AL391, rarely clean it, and it just keeps going.
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Fabarm XLR5.
Not cheap, but best of the bunch.

https://fabarmusa.com/xlr5-velocity-ar/
One of my shooting buddies is getting ready to pull the trigger on one of those. Heís a Fabarm fan boy.
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