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  • Occam

    Not Even ONE Indictment
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 24, 2018
    20,410
    Montgomery County
    California’s Rep. Eric Swalwell has released his roadmap for finally making life safe for you and yours. Needless to say, it involves draconian new gun control laws. His 2A infringement wet dream includes:

    A 48-hour cooling-off period between the time a person purchases a firearm and the time they take possession of it.

    Implement background checks for all firearm and ammunition purchases.

    Require that liability insurance be purchased before a person can buy, trade, or otherwise receive a firearm.

    Create a national firearm registry that is linked to individual firearms, and require that all purchases, transfers, and donations of firearms be mandatorily registered.

    Prohibit individuals from purchasing more than one handgun per 30-day period.

    Prohibit the online sale of ammunition.

    Ban and buy back bump stocks, large-capacity magazines that are capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition, and silencers.

    Prohibit individuals from hoarding ammunition in quantities exceeding 200 rounds per caliber or gauge.

    Repealing the Protection for Lawful Commerce in Guns Act.

    Prohibit states from arming teachers.

    Of course he announced this at a press conference in front of NRA HQ, because for people like him with an agenda like his, he believes that organization is what stands in his way.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/rep-eric-swalwell-rolls-out-gun-control-plan

    Remember: this isn’t really about guns or safety. It’s about using this topic as an election power lever to secure more California-style leftist control over national government and culture.
     

    jbrown50

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 18, 2014
    3,473
    DC
    Of the more than 20 Democrats running for president, Swalwell is polling at an average of .4%, according to RealClearPolitics.

    They show their true colors when they're desperate.
     

    DutchV

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 8, 2012
    4,730
    He drew what, 20 people to that press conference? Probably paid them, too.
     

    BlueHeeler

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 28, 2010
    7,086
    Washington, DC
    None of those proposals address the REAL problem which is people that currently break the law.

    How about enforcing the laws on the books with real jail time? Specifically felon in possession, defacing serial numbers, and straw purchases.
     

    Occam

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    Feb 24, 2018
    20,410
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    None of those proposals address the REAL problem which is people that currently break the law.

    How about enforcing the laws on the books with real jail time? Specifically felon in possession, defacing serial numbers, and straw purchases.

    See, you're falling for the trick. This isn't about reducing violence or crime. They don't care about that in the least. This is about increasing the left's influence over culture and their grip on power. Gun ownership is simply a behavior that strongly correlates to also being more liberty-minded and less inclined towards a larger, more intrusive nanny state. So they do everything they can to pound on people with that world view, and trying to make gun ownership shameful (and, preferably, criminal) is a way to weaken the coherence of their political foes.

    And if course in the case of someone like Swalwell, it's also just a craven way to try to stay in the media spotlight, and to pander for votes among his insane constituency, so he can keep his nice cushy job.
     

    frogman68

    товарищ плачевная
    Apr 7, 2013
    8,774
    I am fine with any of these....




    When they are required it for all amendments and a national voter id law
     

    Qbeam

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 16, 2008
    6,083
    Georgia
    It.would be interesting to put his proposal against the Nazi Party rules back during and before WWII and see how they stack up. Then show it to him, not that it matters. This guy was former military?




    Q
     

    davsco

    Ultimate Member
    Oct 21, 2010
    8,624
    Loudoun, VA
    200 rounds = hoarding???? that will barely get me thru a match.

    background checks for AMMO purchases??? how friggin' ridiculous is that. especially given he doesn't want anyone to have more than 200 rounds. maybe we should require daily vision checks and daily driving tests for motorists.

    where are the onerous/ridiculous regulations for alcohol and cell phones, or i guess drunk and distracted driving deaths don't really matter. c'mon. one 12oz beer or 1oz alcohol per day with a nationwide registry, high capacity alcohol banned (kegs, cases, 6 paks), mandatory motion sensors on cell phones that cut off if motion detected.
     

    BlueHeeler

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 28, 2010
    7,086
    Washington, DC
    See, you're falling for the trick. This isn't about reducing violence or crime. They don't care about that in the least. This is about increasing the left's influence over culture and their grip on power. Gun ownership is simply a behavior that strongly correlates to also being more liberty-minded and less inclined towards a larger, more intrusive nanny state. So they do everything they can to pound on people with that world view, and trying to make gun ownership shameful (and, preferably, criminal) is a way to weaken the coherence of their political foes.

    And if course in the case of someone like Swalwell, it's also just a craven way to try to stay in the media spotlight, and to pander for votes among his insane constituency, so he can keep his nice cushy job.

    Disgusting and true :sad20:
     

    rbird7282

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 6, 2012
    18,716
    Columbia
    200 rounds = hoarding???? that will barely get me thru a match.

    background checks for AMMO purchases??? how friggin' ridiculous is that. especially given he doesn't want anyone to have more than 200 rounds. maybe we should require daily vision checks and daily driving tests for motorists.

    where are the onerous/ridiculous regulations for alcohol and cell phones, or i guess drunk and distracted driving deaths don't really matter. c'mon. one 12oz beer or 1oz alcohol per day with a nationwide registry, high capacity alcohol banned (kegs, cases, 6 paks), mandatory motion sensors on cell phones that cut off if motion detected.



    200 rounds won’t get me through a range trip


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    Occam

    Not Even ONE Indictment
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    Feb 24, 2018
    20,410
    Montgomery County
    200 rounds won’t get me through a range trip

    Doesn't matter if he thinks you should have to buy your ammo AT the range, after passing a background check at the cash register. No doubt along with a large background check fee, and of course the hourly fee to pay a personal range officer to look over your shoulder for your entire visit to make sure you don't horde any of that ammo into your pocket to take home.

    Or, maybe you'll just decide that any sort of shooting and gun owning will just become too expensive and annoying, and you'll give up on the whole thing. Which is just what these people want. And if you give up on THAT liberty, you'll start to break down on all the other ones, too. Which is what they really want, after all.
     

    rbird7282

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 6, 2012
    18,716
    Columbia
    Doesn't matter if he thinks you should have to buy your ammo AT the range, after passing a background check at the cash register. No doubt along with a large background check fee, and of course the hourly fee to pay a personal range officer to look over your shoulder for your entire visit to make sure you don't horde any of that ammo into your pocket to take home.



    Or, maybe you'll just decide that any sort of shooting and gun owning will just become too expensive and annoying, and you'll give up on the whole thing. Which is just what these people want. And if you give up on THAT liberty, you'll start to break down on all the other ones, too. Which is what they really want, after all.



    Or I’ll decide that he can go fvck himself and I’m not doing any of that.


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    Blacksmith101

    Grumpy Old Man
    Jun 22, 2012
    22,284
    200 rounds = hoarding???? that will barely get me thru a match.

    background checks for AMMO purchases??? how friggin' ridiculous is that. especially given he doesn't want anyone to have more than 200 rounds. maybe we should require daily vision checks and daily driving tests for motorists.

    where are the onerous/ridiculous regulations for alcohol and cell phones, or i guess drunk and distracted driving deaths don't really matter. c'mon. one 12oz beer or 1oz alcohol per day with a nationwide registry, high capacity alcohol banned (kegs, cases, 6 paks), mandatory motion sensors on cell phones that cut off if motion detected.

    All ready required in California as of July 1, 2019.

    From Calguns Forum

    http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1413768

    And http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...r=1.&article=4.
    Quote:
    30370.

    (a) Commencing July 1, 2019, the department shall electronically approve the purchase or transfer of ammunition through a vendor, as defined in Section 16151, except as otherwise specified. This approval shall occur at the time of purchase or transfer, prior to the purchaser or transferee taking possession of the ammunition. Pursuant to the authorization specified in paragraph (1) of subdivision (c) of Section 30352, the following persons are authorized to purchase ammunition:

    (1) A purchaser or transferee whose information matches an entry in the Automated Firearms System (AFS) and who is eligible to possess ammunition as specified in subdivision (b).

    (2) A purchaser or transferee who has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the department pursuant to Section 26710.

    (3) A purchaser or transferee who is not prohibited from purchasing or possessing ammunition in a single ammunition transaction or purchase made pursuant to the procedure developed pursuant to subdivision (c).
     

    dist1646

    Ultimate Member
    May 1, 2012
    8,802
    Eldersburg
    Maybe it is time to invade California and make it part of the United States! Clearly, the current dictatorship needs to be removed.
     

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