Gadsen plate for md ; why not ? funds to ben pro liberty groups

Brooklyn · Feb 20, 2013

Http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=2173683#post2173683

As indicated this may have merit.

Any thoughts?

If you think its stupid say as much. It just an idea...

fightinbluhen51 · Feb 20, 2013

I'd LOVE to put a Gadsden plate on my vehicle.

http://www.mva.maryland.gov/Vehicle-Services/SpecialtyPlates/displayPlateDetails.asp?PLATEID=321

While that's nice...I'd much rather have an obnoxious yellow plate that would piss off every non freedom loving, lib in this state.

Safetech · Feb 20, 2013

Good luck getting THAT approved in MD.

Now, as far as "organizational plates", that might be possible. You only need 25 people to start the program for the ones without a graphic on it. I'm not sure about the minimum for the ones with a logo or graphic. But I think the latter are $25 or $50 extra a year.

Edit: I'm assuming you mean regularly issued plates, like "Bay plates" "Farm plates" etc..

Bohlieve410 · Feb 20, 2013

fightinbluhen51 said:
I'd LOVE to put a Gadsden plate on my vehicle.

http://www.mva.maryland.gov/Vehicle-Services/SpecialtyPlates/displayPlateDetails.asp?PLATEID=321

While that's nice...I'd much rather have an obnoxious yellow plate that would piss off every non freedom loving, lib in this state.

I'm surprised Annapolis hasn't made a law to quash the plate.

Paul · Feb 20, 2013

While that's nice...I'd much rather have an obnoxious yellow plate that would piss off every non freedom loving, lib in this state.[/QUOTE]

:thumbsup:

-Z/28- · Feb 20, 2013

I like it. But that'd probably get my car vandalized, where I live.

Just5Guy · Feb 20, 2013

If not gadsen, then why not an Associated Gun Clubs (AGC) plate. There has to be more than 25 of us on here that belong to one of the clubs in the group.

Skins_Brew · Feb 20, 2013

i heard a story on WTOP about NRA plates the other day. They say that requests are UP for the NRA plates in VA, by like 40%. They said requests are not up in MD. They failed to mention that no one knows how to get the NRA plate....

Brooklyn · Feb 20, 2013

Bohlieve410 said:
I'm surprised Annapolis hasn't made a law to quash the plate.

Its protected by 1a. They can't target it yet..

I assume MSI could do a plate as well, but not sure we want to divide us up.

I assume that NRA gets some funding from this but not sure how.

The idea is best if it works to channel funds ...

Safetech · Feb 20, 2013

I started the MLA (Maryland Locksmith Association) tag program back in the early 90s. We chose the ones without the logo because it was a one-time cost of $11 (at the time, I think it's now $14) as opposed to the organizational plate WITH a logo, because that is a yearly additional fee - like vanity plates.

The association made nothing off the program. The entire fee when to the MVA.

I suppose we could have told people it would be $20 and kept the difference as part of our "fundraising", but we didn't.

2AHokie · Feb 20, 2013

Here's the relevant information for doing new organizational plates:

Info: http://www.mva.maryland.gov/Vehicle-Services/SpecialtyPlates/Inform_org.asp

Application: http://www.mva.maryland.gov/Vehicle-Services/SpecialtyPlates/VR-039.pdf

TR 13-619: http://law.justia.com/codes/maryland/2005/gtr/13-619.html

COMAR 11.15.19.03: http://www.dsd.state.md.us/COMAR/getfile.aspx?file=11.15.19.03.htm

We would need a non-profit with at least 25 members and MVA has to approve the logo. I'm happy to be one of the 25, but wouldn't know the first thing about starting a non-profit.

I looked through a few of the sample plates to see if anything provocative was approved, but didn't find much. The NRA and the National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association both display firearms on their logos though.

P.S. According to TR 13-619, the extra money paid does not go back to the organization, it is kept by MVA to recoup their costs.

Bohlieve410 · Feb 20, 2013

Brooklyn said:
Its protected by 1a. They can't target it yet..

I assume MSI could do a plate as well, but not sure we want to divide us up.

I assume that NRA gets some funding from this but not sure how.

The idea is best if it works to channel funds ...

When have stupid things like rights and the law ever stopped Annapolis

Brooklyn · Feb 20, 2013

Bohlieve410 said:
When have stupid things like rights and the law ever stopped Annapolis

Fair enough but they do not want a fight they can't win.

Our opposition is tenacious and perhaps petty but they are not stupid.
Even ACLU would back us on this one.. and that's the kind of publicity they do no need.

Assists21 · Feb 20, 2013

fightinbluhen51 said:
I'd LOVE to put a Gadsden plate on my vehicle.

http://www.mva.maryland.gov/Vehicle-Services/SpecialtyPlates/displayPlateDetails.asp?PLATEID=321

While that's nice...I'd much rather have an obnoxious yellow plate that would piss off every non freedom loving, lib in this state.

How do you go about obtaining an NRA plate?

mcbruzdzinski · Feb 20, 2013

Just5Guy said:
If not gadsen, then why not an Associated Gun Clubs (AGC) plate. There has to be more than 25 of us on here that belong to one of the clubs in the group.

I am all for it! All we need is 25 AGC folks and the permission of the AGC to use the logo!

Brooklyn · Feb 20, 2013

2AHokie said:
Here's the relevant information for doing new organizational plates:

Info: http://www.mva.maryland.gov/Vehicle-Services/SpecialtyPlates/Inform_org.asp

Application: http://www.mva.maryland.gov/Vehicle-Services/SpecialtyPlates/VR-039.pdf

TR 13-619: http://law.justia.com/codes/maryland/2005/gtr/13-619.html

COMAR 11.15.19.03: http://www.dsd.state.md.us/COMAR/getfile.aspx?file=11.15.19.03.htm

We would need a non-profit with at least 25 members and MVA has to approve the logo. I'm happy to be one of the 25, but wouldn't know the first thing about starting a non-profit.

I looked through a few of the sample plates to see if anything provocative was approved, but didn't find much. The NRA and the National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association both display firearms on their logos though.

P.S. According to TR 13-619, the extra money paid does not go back to the organization, it is kept by MVA to recoup their costs.

Well without getting funding its just a metal number sticker that helps fund our opposition.

Also the story I linked refers to some vocal and misinformed push back in texas about tea party hate and all that crap.

I am thinking that we should attempt to depoliticize the gadsen.

That is, make it more generic than just right /left.
This will have the consequence of trowing off our opposition .. they will no longer know who is in their camp.

Gadsen would still mean limited government but that's all. Democrats and Republicans can agree on at lest this ;glovenment needs to be more accountable.

Not sure I would volunteer more money to government to send that message.. but. Some might. I wonder what the Md legislature would make of that.

ThePhantomPatriot · Feb 20, 2013

The other week I followed a truck from VA that had the Gadsden plate.

Looked pretty sick.

(just a google pic.)

Brooklyn · Feb 20, 2013

Assists21 said:
How do you go about obtaining an NRA plate?

Talk to the NRA ...

Brooklyn · Feb 20, 2013

ThePhantomPatriot said:
The other week I followed a truck from VA that had the Gadsden plate.

Looked pretty sick.

(just a google pic.)

Yes it does.. and the colors are the blue and gold of .....

New York.. now that means every NY plate has a missing Gaston that needs to be put back ..

BigCity · Feb 20, 2013

New York.. now that means every NY plate has a missing Gaston that needs to be put back ..

Wait, do they have Glock plates in NY?? :innocent0

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