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  • Bog

    Member
    Oct 15, 2017
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    lol, true enough.
    He did lament something about the crazy law. :)
     

    danb

    dont be a dumbass
    Feb 24, 2013
    22,704
    google is your friend, I am not.
    I will not do business with FFLs who force me to buy a lock from them. I do not think others should either. There is a sticky thread on the MD bore lock exchange so you can borrow one for free. Worst case if someone does not live close, you can get them on ebay for $7-$12 (probably from the same dealer lol).

    It may be the law you have to have one, but it is not the law you need to buy one from the FFL.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,453
    Westminster USA
    Here is the approved list from the Roster Board.

    I won't do business with an FFL who requires me to buy a bore lock from them in direct contravention of the law

    here is the statute too. It states "has". Nothing about required sale.

    SS 5-132
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    DanGuy48

    Ultimate Member
    I have my own lock and had it with me. But the dealer said i need to buy one and could not use my own. I have an Omega Internal Gun lock. Sounds like someone was trying to make an extra buck off me. So when I go to pick up my gun in 7 days I will just return the lock and get my money back.

    It can't just be a lock either. If the gun does not have one built in, it has to be a bore lock. The through-the-barrel cable locks are not acceptable to Maryland. Best thing is to borrow one, next best, buy one and save it for the next gun of the same caliber that you buy.
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    22,891
    Socialist State of Maryland
    It can't just be a lock either. If the gun does not have one built in, it has to be a bore lock. The through-the-barrel cable locks are not acceptable to Maryland. Best thing is to borrow one, next best, buy one and save it for the next gun of the same caliber that you buy.

    I just came on this post while surfing and it brought to mind my involvement with cable locks. I have distributed cable locks supplied by gun and lock manufacturers as part of Maryland Safety events. Considering that NRP and other police agencies give these out, how do they get away with saying they are not acceptable as a gun lock?
     

    Melnic

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 27, 2012
    15,331
    HoCo
    I forgot where I got it but I got a used rifle from a Gun Shop and they gave me a cable lock. I said I did not need it and he said he got them free so take it.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,453
    Westminster USA
    The following list are the only approved locks from the Handgun Roster Board.

    The statute 5-132 is also included
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    danb

    dont be a dumbass
    Feb 24, 2013
    22,704
    google is your friend, I am not.
    The following list are the only approved locks from the Handgun Roster Board.

    The statute is also included
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    Thats not really the whole story. The board was sued and subsequently interpreted "integrated mechanical safety device" to only mean a only bore lock (or actual integrated lock like on revolvers). As I recall, there were very few handguns offered with the device envisioned by the legislature, and no semi-auto pistols. For revolvers, I think this actually refers to the Clinton hole.

    If bore lock makers went out of business, it would become a de facto ban. They would be forced to repeal the law or approve other devices. I wonder what other state requires these.
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    22,891
    Socialist State of Maryland
    Is there any way to challenge the list as unreasonable since cable locks have been an accepted locking device for years? They are no different than internal locks, you can choose to use them or not. If they are used, it renders the firearms inoperable. From a function standpoint, they all work the same. :shrug:
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,453
    Westminster USA
    The accepted list is what it is. Currently, that's the whole story until the list is either modified or removed by the Roster Board or the MGA
     

    danb

    dont be a dumbass
    Feb 24, 2013
    22,704
    google is your friend, I am not.
    I am sure you can try to challenge the list, but its way more expensive than the postage to exchange a lock.

    The problem is that they have already been sued and the approved list is already beyond what the legislature envisioned. I do not see a court ruling the lock law unconstitutional. I do not see a court striking a $25 inconvenience either, which is what FFLs charge.
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    22,891
    Socialist State of Maryland
    How about making the cost of a gun too expensive for the poor folks in Baltimore who really need them for protection? Isn't there some law pertaining to discrimination stemming from pricing people out of a market as a class of people?
     

    danb

    dont be a dumbass
    Feb 24, 2013
    22,704
    google is your friend, I am not.
    Supreme Court passed on the challenge to the NYC pistol permit fee, which IIRC was >$300 every 3 years. Kwong v Bloomberg.

    This less than that, so I doubt the challenge would get very far.
     

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