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Old January 10th, 2022, 01:24 PM #61
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Last year I was invited for the first time to an annual winter camping/shooting trip that they take in late February. The way they hook it up isn't too bad, and the coldest it got last year was 17 degrees on the second night. It was something like 20 or 21 degrees on the first night. The cool thing was the fire we had going from sun-up until right before we went to bed for the night. There was deadfall all over the place, and one of the guys cut a bunch of firewood from the deadfall as soon as we got there, so if you ever started to feel cold at all, you'd just go stand next to the fire for a while. Daytime temps were mid 40s, but with the sun out the way it was, it felt a lot nicer than that - I was running around in a fleece top during the days.

I enjoyed it. I don't know if I'll get to do it this year because it looks like I'm getting activated as part of the National Guard's response to Hogan's State of Emergency for Covid, so there's a good chance I'll still be on the hook for that when this trip rolls around.
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Old January 10th, 2022, 01:27 PM #62
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I got cold reading the first page of this thread...man I am a wuss
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Definitely. Cotton naturally makes you sweat, which cools the body down.

Wool and wool/synths rule the day. Polypropylene rules.
Also when wet, cotton loses all of its insulating properties.
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Also when wet, cotton loses all of its insulating properties.
The only time wet cotton is an advantage is when the weather is incredibly hot, or the woman is incredibly hot.
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Spent 3 winters weekend camping at our WV property. We had a Cabelas 12 x 12 Alaknak tent with with the optional vestibule. We used a Colorado Cylinders Stove for heat. The coldest was 4 degrees F. This year we upgraded to a 12 x 32 shed that we converted into a cabin.
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I camped at Greenbriar with a group of us bowhunting in November some years ago. I got a 0 degree Fahrenheit mummy bag just for that trip. That bag was great, toasty warm. But not so much fun camping out in near freezing or freezing weather.
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Spent 3 winters weekend camping at our WV property. We had a Cabelas 12 x 12 Alaknak tent with with the optional vestibule. We used a Colorado Cylinders Stove for heat. The coldest was 4 degrees F. This year we upgraded to a 12 x 32 shed that we converted into a cabin.
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I camped at Greenbriar with a group of us bowhunting in November some years ago. I got a 0 degree Fahrenheit mummy bag just for that trip. That bag was great, toasty warm. But not so much fun camping out in near freezing or freezing weather.
Having a heat source is I think the key to making the experience enjoyable. I mentioned the fire we had going the whole time - it was easily 5-6 feet in diameter, going all three days except for in the middle of the night.

It had been dry, so we didn't want to take the chance on having something spark up, and wind up with a much more serious problem, so we'd let it die down and bury the coals at night. First thing the next morning we'd dig them out, add some kindling, add a couple of logs, and before we knew it, it was built up again.

I think the fire really was the key though because any time I'd get cold, I'd just stop what I was doing and go sit by the fire to warm up. Evenings were spent around the fire sipping beers, BS'ing, toasting marshmallows, etc. We even did some cooking over that fire - I grilled up a very very tasty New York strip steak, some Johnsonville sausage....YUM!
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We camped for years on Mason Island on the Potomac. We went just about every month throughout the year. We had both a winter camp and a summer camp. It was a blast. Most of our core group are deceased now. Of six of us, only two remain. Good times though.
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Some others have mentioned it, but properly rated bags/tents and insulated ground pads are a must. I guarantee you that zero folks in your kids troop have bags rated to handle below freezing temps. Those “20 degree rated” bags from REI or wherever are really three-season bags and the kids will be miserable trying to sleep in them if it’s below freezing.

On the “free” end of the spectrum, filling up a Nalgene with hot water and tossing it into the foot box of your bag is a game changer.
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Some others have mentioned it, but properly rated bags/tents and insulated ground pads are a must. I guarantee you that zero folks in your kids troop have bags rated to handle below freezing temps. Those “20 degree rated” bags from REI or wherever are really three-season bags and the kids will be miserable trying to sleep in them if it’s below freezing.

On the “free” end of the spectrum, filling up a Nalgene with hot water and tossing it into the foot box of your bag is a game changer.
I was in a budget level (less than $100) zero degree bag last winter, and had a self-inflating ground pad with a R-value of 6. The first night I was on a cot in the tent, the temp got into the low 20s, and I never got cold. The second night the temp was 17, but I decided to try putting the pad on the ground instead of sleeping on the cot - I felt I might feel less restricted. I didn't sleep great that night, and was a bit on the cool side until I put on a pair of sweats. I don't know if being closer to the ground is what did it or what the deal was.

One thing though - I'm not sure if that "zero degree bag" would have gotten the job done much colder than that.

FWIW, the bag was a Teton Celsius zero degree bag - they run around $80.
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