Home invader shot in Poolsville

sgt23preston · Oct 12, 2021

Fredcohunter said:
I have no idea on the facts of the shooting to say whether it was justified or not. My only point was that in MoCo if he shot an unarmed home invader he may have a long road ahead regardless.

A long EXPENSIVE road ahead...

Monkey County is LEFT even compared to California...

Unarmed man, hopefully he was inside of the house & not on the Deck like the Photos...

Civil Suits coming from Family Members, Baby Mommas, etc, for "Wrongful Death"...

Neighbors will testify that the Homeowner was a "Local Gun Nut"...

Darkemp · Oct 12, 2021

sgt23preston said:
A long EXPENSIVE road ahead...

Monkey County is LEFT even compared to California...

Unarmed man, hopefully he was inside of the house & not on the Deck like the Photos...

Civil Suits coming from Family Members, Baby Mommas, etc, for "Wrongful Death"...

Neighbors will testify that the Homeowner was a "Local Gun Nut"...

Whether or not the county leans left or right is irrelevant to the facts and the law.

1.). The articles stated the intruder was inside the residence.

2.). We have Civil Immunity in Statute in Maryland. The statute — § 5-808 of the Courts and Judicial Proceedings Article of the Maryland Code — provides as follows:

(a) In this section, "person" does not include a governmental entity.

(b) A person is not liable for damages for a personal injury or death of an individual who enters the person's dwelling or place of business if:

(1) The person reasonably believes that force or deadly force is necessary to repel an attack by the individual; and (2) The amount and nature of the force used by the person is reasonable under the circumstances.
(c) Subsection (b) of this section does not apply to a person who is convicted of a crime of violence under § 14-101 of the Criminal Law Article, assault in the second degree, or reckless endangerment arising out of the circumstances described in subsection (b) of this section.

(d) The court may award costs and reasonable attorney's fees to a defendant who prevails in a defense under this section.

(e) This section does not limit or abrogate any immunity from civil liability or defense available to a person under any other provision of the Code or at common law.[7]
The statute essentially codifies the common law rule of self-defense.

Fredcohunter · Oct 12, 2021

Mark392001 said:
Whether or not the county leans left or right is irrelevant to the facts and the law.

1.). The articles stated the intruder was inside the residence.

2.). We have Civil Immunity in Statute in Maryland. The statute — § 5-808 of the Courts and Judicial Proceedings Article of the Maryland Code — provides as follows:

(a) In this section, "person" does not include a governmental entity.

(b) A person is not liable for damages for a personal injury or death of an individual who enters the person's dwelling or place of business if:

(1) The person reasonably believes that force or deadly force is necessary to repel an attack by the individual; and (2) The amount and nature of the force used by the person is reasonable under the circumstances.
(c) Subsection (b) of this section does not apply to a person who is convicted of a crime of violence under § 14-101 of the Criminal Law Article, assault in the second degree, or reckless endangerment arising out of the circumstances described in subsection (b) of this section.

(d) The court may award costs and reasonable attorney's fees to a defendant who prevails in a defense under this section.

(e) This section does not limit or abrogate any immunity from civil liability or defense available to a person under any other provision of the Code or at common law.[7]
The statute essentially codifies the common law rule of self-defense.

I wish it were that simple. It should be but rarely is especially in places like MoCo.

TheBert · Oct 12, 2021

TheOriginalMexicanBob said:
The MoCo Police range has been out near Poolesville for years. When development started close by the neighbors started complaining about the noise of gunfire. Too bad...the range was there first. One new resident complained saying the realtor that sold her the house told her the range would be gone within a year...NOT!

The Bethesda Isaac Walton League is south of Poolesville. Several years ago they were building new pasture palaces across the street from the Isaac Walton property. I wonder what happened.

wilcam47 · Oct 12, 2021

Any free state it would be closed case.

I liked the deck on the house

Tungsten · Oct 12, 2021

Mark392001 said:
Whether or not the county leans left or right is irrelevant to the facts and the law.

Since when does the far left care about what the law actually says

SkiPatrolDude · Oct 12, 2021

So much BGOS in this thread.

camo556 · Oct 12, 2021

what is BGOS? is that derp, because there is a lot of that.

Squaregrouper · Oct 12, 2021

camo556 said:
what is BGOS? is that derp, because there is a lot of that.

Battered Gun Owner Syndrome.

camo556 · Oct 12, 2021

squaregrouper said:
Battered Gun Owner Syndrome.

all these battered gun owners and not a single deep fryer.

pbharvey · Oct 12, 2021

SkiPatrolDude said:
Part of the article states that a service company, "Pro Tec" was in the driveway. When fox news called the company, they stated that an employee was involved in the shooting "but is ok".

Seems like there's more to this story. Pro Tec is a home inspection company. Maybe the service employee had an unexpected/unauthorized visitor or helper?

Pure speculation by me at this point...

One article said it was the house of the son of ProTec’s owner. I assume dad showed up for his son.

I’m curious about being on the phone with 911 and simultaneously shooting an unarmed person. I’m not against that per se, if someone breaks into my house they are a deadly threat until they leave. It just seems weird as it he wanted it recorded.

camo556 · Oct 12, 2021

upthread someone who heard the 911 call said there was a scuffle.

Ppl can kill you with their fist. "Unarmed" does not mean what the media thinks it means.

Darkemp · Oct 12, 2021

squaregrouper said:
Battered Gun Owner Syndrome.

So much BGOS.

pbharvey · Oct 12, 2021

camo556 said:
upthread someone who heard the 911 call said there was a scuffle.

Ppl can kill you with their fist. "Unarmed" does not mean what the media thinks it means.

Agreed.
What are the odds though that a guy with a “birds are not real” banner outside his home lacks critical thinking skills and sound judgement.
Maybe the guy was a threat or maybe the homeowner was all spun up in some fantasy.

I hope the resident county officers chime in. If nothing else I’d like to know how many guns they hauled out of the house (unless dad took care of that first).

Darkemp · Oct 12, 2021

pbharvey said:
Agreed.
What are the odds though that a guy with a “birds are not real” banner outside his home lacks critical thinking skills and sound judgement.
Maybe the guy was a threat or maybe the homeowner was all spun up in some fantasy.

I hope the resident county officers chime in. If nothing else I’d like to know how many guns they hauled out of the house (unless dad took care of that first).

No reason to haul out firearms if no crime.

pbharvey · Oct 12, 2021

Mark392001 said:
No reason to haul out firearms if no crime.

camo556 · Oct 12, 2021

pbharvey said:
Agreed.
What are the odds though that a guy with a “birds are not real” banner outside his home lacks critical thinking skills and sound judgement.
Maybe the guy was a threat or maybe the homeowner was all spun up in some fantasy.

I hope the resident county officers chime in. If nothing else I’d like to know how many guns they hauled out of the house (unless dad took care of that first).

Doesn't everyone know the 911 operator works for the CIA?

A guy who keeps 911 on the line then cooperates with the police (who also work for the CIA) does not sound like someone spun up on a paranoid fantasy.

They cant release the 911 call soon enough

SkiPatrolDude · Oct 12, 2021

camo556 said:
all these battered gun owners and not a single deep fryer.

Thank you for ruining my sense of humor for the rest of the day. :sad20:

GBMaryland · Oct 12, 2021

pbharvey said:
Agreed.
What are the odds though that a guy with a “birds are not real” banner outside his home lacks critical thinking skills and sound judgement.
Maybe the guy was a threat or maybe the homeowner was all spun up in some fantasy.

I hope the resident county officers chime in. If nothing else I’d like to know how many guns they hauled out of the house (unless dad took care of that first).

I'm 50+ years old, have had a disc replaced in my neck, and could be in better physical shape.

Honestly, anyone coming in my direction after breaking into my house is a serious threat to my physical wellbeing. One hard hit to my face an it's bad news.

All situations are different, but I'd be hard pressed to let someone get close enough to even scuffle with me, as I don't want to be permanently disabled more.

The problem is that I'm 6 Ft 1 In, and many people would just make a flawed assumption that I can just kick the crap out of anyone.

camo556 · Oct 12, 2021

SkiPatrolDude said:
Thank you for ruining my sense of humor for the rest of they day.

I prefer battered chicken or pork. Battered gun owners are bitter.

Home invader shot in Poolsville

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