SAF SUES IN MARYLAND OVER HANDGUN PERMIT DENIAL UPDATED 3-5-12

Patrick · May 10, 2011

ezliving said:
I respectfully disagree. Obamacare has cost $billion$ since it was passed, new taxes are being collected, hundreds of thousands of pages of new regulations have been written, hundreds of new agencies and bureaucracies have been created, thousands of people have been hired (and fired.)

Everyone knows this is a SCOTUS case. The Court masturbated.

I think your view is smart and I agree in principle. We are some of the people who are directly affected by the recent changes. It is costing our firm a lot of coin. I want ObamaCare repealed and replaced with something else.

That said, the states pretty much challenged the individual mandate. It is the weakest link in the whole chain. If it fails, the rest of it falls. The individual mandate does not take effect until 2014. That means SCOTUS has time for that claim. The AGs opposed to the act are attacking the thing they can win; not the entirety of the law.

I am patient, even when it costs us many thousands of dollars per year that are better spent on research and development.

BenL · May 10, 2011

Patrick said:
That said, the states pretty much challenged the individual mandate. It is the weakest link in the whole chain. If it fails, the rest of it falls. The individual mandate does not take effect until 2014. That means SCOTUS has time for that claim. The AGs opposed to the act are attacking the thing they can win; not the entirety of the law.

So, does that mean if the one piece fails Constitutional muster, the whole thing dies? If so, what happens with the parts already being executed?

Splitter · May 10, 2011

BenL said:
So, does that mean if the one peace fails Constitutional muster, the whole thing dies? If so, what happens with the parts already being executed?

The Democrats wrote the bill in such a way that it is all or nothing. They did that to "safeguard' the bill against a piecemeal attack by the Republicans (that's how the Dems normally attack things like gun rights).

They COULD have written the in such a way that it would have withstood the elimination of the individual mandate but they chose to go the other way.

Maybe they should have read the bill before they passed it...

Splitter

krucam · May 10, 2011

We're getting a little Off-Topic here...

Inigoes · May 10, 2011

Is it 5/18/2011 yet?

fightinbluhen51 · May 10, 2011

Inigoes said:
Is it 5/18/2011 yet?

Agreed. Is it 7/21/11 yet?

Tower43 · May 10, 2011

fightinbluhen51 said:
Agreed. Is it 7/21/11 yet?

OK , now I'm confused......

zombiehunter · May 10, 2011

Is it 5/21/11?

ezliving · May 10, 2011

Patrick said:
I think your view is smart and I agree in principle. We are some of the people who are directly affected by the recent changes. It is costing our firm a lot of coin. I want ObamaCare repealed and replaced with something else.

That said, the states pretty much challenged the individual mandate. It is the weakest link in the whole chain. If it fails, the rest of it falls. The individual mandate does not take effect until 2014. That means SCOTUS has time for that claim. The AGs opposed to the act are attacking the thing they can win; not the entirety of the law.

I am patient, even when it costs us many thousands of dollars per year that are better spent on research and development.

Point, well taken.

Inigoes · May 10, 2011

fightinbluhen51 said:
Agreed. Is it 7/21/11 yet?

5/18 = Gansler's reply
7/21 = Oral arguments before Judge Legg

Tower43 said:
OK , now I'm confused......

Less confused

zombiehunter said:
Is it 5/21/11?

5/21 = The hot chic in the mini driving around the US stating the world is going to end. more like 12/21/2012

Bikebreath · May 11, 2011

Is it 1/20/13 yet?

Inigoes · May 11, 2011

Bikebreath said:
Is it 1/20/13 yet?

Obama's second term?????????

zombiehunter · May 11, 2011

Inigoes said:
5/18 = Gansler's reply
7/21 = Oral arguments before Judge Legg

Less confused

5/21 = The hot chic in the mini driving around the US stating the world is going to end. more like 12/21/2012

Inigoes said:
Obama's second term?????????

It's like our own personal calendar updater guy

rob · May 11, 2011

Inigoes said:
Obama's second term?????????

Go and wash your mouth (err fingers) out with soap immediately! :mad54:

Atlasarmory · May 11, 2011

Inigoes said:
5/18 = Gansler's reply
7/21 = Oral arguments before Judge Legg

Less confused

5/21 = The hot chic in the mini driving around the US stating the world is going to end. more like 12/21/2012

Thanks for the recap I was lost as usual :thumbsup:

Inigoes · May 11, 2011

rob said:
Go and wash your mouth (err fingers) out with soap immediately!

.

Mr H · May 11, 2011

Inigoes said:
Obama's second term?????????

End of an Error.

Patrick · May 11, 2011

mr h said:
End of an Error.

Off Topic, but not a shot in hell.

Anyone care to guess how Nordyke gets treated? Red-Headed Step-Child or Prodigal Son?

I think Gansler is going to slaughter a lamb with it. Even I couldn't screw this up.

Tower43 · May 11, 2011

Inigoes said:
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Interesting... 2 pairs of feet

Fodder4Thought · May 11, 2011

Tower43 said:
Interesting... 2 pairs of feet

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