shootin the breeze
Missed it by that much
Whatever. It’s only the dimocRats who actually do the shooting. But sometime it will come to that but I guess you’ll just hand them over.
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Whatever. It’s only the dimocRats who actually do the shooting. But sometime it will come to that but I guess you’ll just hand them over.
scjamesm
Active Member
I kinda think so. Also you have to remember one thing. The local media hasn't really said a peep about any of the gun bills in the state house because if they did the state house has a chance of being overrun by the end of the session. Congress is equipped for protests, the Maryland general assembly doesn't want 50-100k Marylanders to contend with.
scjamesm
Active Member
Though can you imagine getting that many pro-2a protesters down at the state capital, it would be glorious to get 50k people.
That's an excellent point. Reporting on the proposed legislation would probably be the biggest and most effective outreach that we could do. I don't think any local pro-2A organization has the money to run TV commercials and these get even less attention than news stories.
News stories about the protests on Feb 25/27 would be great, but the news media actually alerting citizens right now before these dates (so those on both sides of the issue are informed) would be great. You're probably correct in your cynicism.
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scjamesm
Active Member
Anyone from msi or other groups reach out to Nino Mangione? Cause the fact his family owns wcbm 680 could get a message out.
Muleskinner
Ultimate Member
And hence the Paradox of the law-abiding gun owners. Keep your mouth shut they'll take them away open your mouth they'll point you out as dangerous. So what's it going to be? You going to let them take them away? Personally I want them to know that if they go too far they will be on the receiving end of What I own. Do I think it will make them think twice about passing illegal infringement? Maybe. I do feel that it's only fair to warn someone that their actions could be the cause of their demise. Second Amendment supporters have been fighting this fight in this state forever 30 years and every year we hold our breath and we wait to see what kind of draconian gun control laws that going to pass this session. This year seems to be the biggest in recent memory. Even bigger than 2013 and yet again we have a bunch of supposed Second Amendment supporters quaking in their boots. During the American Revolution only 3% of the colonies participated in fighting the British. I can see it's going to end up being about the same percentage this time if the proverbial poop hits the fan.
I'll pass this along.
The punch list that they have in the petition nicely summarizes what we're facing and could be used in communicating with him.
https://www.change.org/p/maryland-g...upport-any-additional-gun-control-in-maryland
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SCV/SAR Patriot
UNRECONSTRUCTED
"During the American Revolution only 3% of the colonies participated in fighting the British. I can see it's going to end up being about the same percentage this time if the proverbial poop it's the fan".
Sadly in this state I think it is lower than that. I'm not knocking anyone for what they do for the fight in Annapolis but we need to face reality that the same $hit we've been doing ain't working.
shootin the breeze
Missed it by that much
Amen, brother. I want them to know I AM dangerous. Not crazy, not spoiling for a fight, not planning on starting a fight. However, I will fight back.
I guess it's time to join the Oath Keepers. Never felt more strongly about the oath I took than I do now.
randomuser
Ultimate Member
Clearly what has been done by "our side" has only slowed down, but not stopped the infringement. Now, they come with heavier infringement than ever before.
Would you recommend the same course of action to slow them down as previously was done or perhaps something different.
Only letters, emails, calls and donations can stop this.
If you get infringed, it's because enough money was not donated. right?
Or
Perhaps, they realized that they can write laws (on your dollar btw, you pay the law writers salary) at a greater rate and lower cost than you defend against. so essentially, you are paying twice to have your rights taken one by one.
And furthermore
your defense and "win" is only eliminating say, 50% of what is written in their 1 law
but
they don't worry, there are more laws coming at you at a greater rate than you can defend against.
Imagine a business. A business that sells pencils
They buy them for 1.05
and sell them for 1.00
they lose .05 on every sale, but the owner tells you, "don't worry, we can make it up in volume".
It's insanity
Would you recommend the same course of action to slow them down as previously was done or perhaps something different.
Only letters, emails, calls and donations can stop this.
If you get infringed, it's because enough money was not donated. right?
Or
Perhaps, they realized that they can write laws (on your dollar btw, you pay the law writers salary) at a greater rate and lower cost than you defend against. so essentially, you are paying twice to have your rights taken one by one.
And furthermore
your defense and "win" is only eliminating say, 50% of what is written in their 1 law
but
they don't worry, there are more laws coming at you at a greater rate than you can defend against.
Imagine a business. A business that sells pencils
They buy them for 1.05
and sell them for 1.00
they lose .05 on every sale, but the owner tells you, "don't worry, we can make it up in volume".
It's insanity
WeaponsCollector
EXTREME GUN OWNER
Great excuse to stock up on hi-cap mags, as soon as they are banned the prices will go up at least 1,000%! A $6 mag will be $100 overnight! A great investment opportunity!!!
NoMoreTreadingOnUs
Active Member
I posted on another thread that a change in tactics is required if a different outcome is expected. I cited the recent MSI hypothetical of rolling traffic roadblocks caused by strict adherence to the posted speed, an example that I'm not necessarily advocating as it's likely to do more harm to our cause than good. But, it's an example that illustrates the point.
Protesting in Annapolis is a fine idea but will be ineffective in preventing further infringement unless we show up in substantially greater numbers. We need 50,000. Anyone have any ideas as to how to make that happen?
randomuser
Ultimate Member
The term law abiding. Can't stand that word as it implies that any law that is passed will be followed so as that you keep your "law abiding" status. One cannot maintain they are law abiding and say things like shall not infringe when the law makers break their oath and go against the constitution.
scjamesm
Active Member
I don't know if we need 50,000. I think 5000 would send a message. Truth be told, i think the internet is ineffective at advertising. Tv and radio are the way to do it. The reason why i suggested wcbm is because it reaches about 2/3rds the state. Need to catch people on their morning and afternoon drives.
Honestly i suggest calling into Sean and Frank or Bruce Elliott to get the ball rolling on it.
scjamesm
Active Member
They get better ratings than wbal, something to think about. http://www.wcbm.com/2016/05/11/wcbm-hits-number-1-in-newstalk-ratings-for-baltimore/
randomuser
Ultimate Member
I read your thread. tbh, I saw it get a decent amount of "flack". Not from me, but others. I think people were thinking yeah, roadblock...no....
Whereas I took it as saying, hey, I got this idea to do something different, what would some ideas be...something along the lines of x,y,z.
clearly what has been done does not work.
I run a business. This marketing company was charging me like 600 a month for their product. I did a contract with them. After 6 months, no return on investment. Their solution, up it to 1,500 a month from me toward the advertising. Seriously, doubling down on something that has been proven not to work? I don't get it, but that's just me.
NoMoreTreadingOnUs
Active Member
I read that the 2013 turnout was in the range of 3-5,000. Assuming that's accurate we will need at least 5x that number to get a different outcome. 10x would be better obviously.
To be clear, I think the goal should be defeat of all pending legislation. MGA passing a slightly less infringing version is no victory for us.
randomuser
Ultimate Member
If we had 3,000, 30,000 or 50,000 people standing holding signs in protest, a smaller amount of men with guns would be standing between you and the lawmakers for their protection
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Some irony:
I find the irony in the fact that when they want to protect something they use guns.
When we want to protect something (our rights) we use signs and hope for the same level of protection.
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We need to get the message out through email, phone, internet and donate more money than we have in the past.
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Some irony:
I find the irony in the fact that when they want to protect something they use guns.
When we want to protect something (our rights) we use signs and hope for the same level of protection.
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We need to get the message out through email, phone, internet and donate more money than we have in the past.
scjamesm
Active Member
That's assuming the 3-5,000 was all pro-2a. Which i am not sure is the case. Especially since it was right after Sandy Hook. If we get 5,000-10000 to show up, it would make a big difference.
davsco
Ultimate Member
didn't the 'message' already get sent via the election results? seems the cat is out of the bag now and the dem's feel empowered if not mandated to screw us even more.
