redeemed.man
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So she herself wasn't robbed?
MSP AT IT AGAIN! HOGAN NOWHERE TO BE SEEN.
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I thought that they asked for police reports - now only business info?
Hopefully your friend misunderstood and she gets her wear and carry
Hopefully your friend misunderstood and she gets her wear and carry
fightinbluhen51
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- Oct 31, 2008
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I'm "Christian"; can I articulate that as a G&S reason? Ya know; convert or die at the hands of "lone wolf, but not lone wolf" terrorists.
I guess the religion thing would make me part of the cult.
I guess the religion thing would make me part of the cult.
- Mar 8, 2013
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I applaud Montoya for assisting others who are confounded by the morass of statutory, regulatory, and procedural impediments, along with the MSP LD's long held traditions, that serve to impede exercise of the fundamental right to self-defense. The system has been rigged against its citizens by moronic, unicorn and rainbow loving liberals for way too long.
I don't know anything about the applicants situation, but if true it sounds like she will be a good appellant before the HPRB. Yes that's a PIA, and shouldnt be necessary, but it will further expose those who continue to deny the right to self-defense. In the meantime, I suggest we all vote as many of the clowns that created, have refused to correct, or that have double downed on their predecessors abuse of Liberty out of the Legislature.
I don't know anything about the applicants situation, but if true it sounds like she will be a good appellant before the HPRB. Yes that's a PIA, and shouldnt be necessary, but it will further expose those who continue to deny the right to self-defense. In the meantime, I suggest we all vote as many of the clowns that created, have refused to correct, or that have double downed on their predecessors abuse of Liberty out of the Legislature.
She was grabbed and her friend had her purse taken.
No misunderstanding. She applied under self-defense and included the police report of the incident. The interviewing trooper told her that MSP did not issue permits for "crimes of opportunity" and that she should brings business ownership paperwork and deposit slips to her in person interview.
redeemed.man
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What's robbing a business owner if not a crime of opportunity? "I saw the guy with a bag of money, I thought it was a good opportunity so I robbed him"
Only if you're wearing this jacket.
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If she was touched/grabbed, she was physically assaulted.
And with that, you uncover a flaw in their rationalization. The number of crimes of opportunity where a victim is robbed in a neighborhood with elevated crime rates likely far exceeds premeditated robbery targeting a business person because that person is more likely to have cash (especially in areas with lower crime rates). In fact, in the comparison, the second situation may occur 10-fold or more less frequently that the first. So how does the math-challenged state determine that this less likely event constitutes a good and substantial (i.e. when there is no substantial) reason?
MSP likes playing the odds. Problem is, they're gambling with our lives. Recall the rape victim who was denied a permit afterwards because "the odds of being raped twice are extremely low."
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Metaterra
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Yeah, because nothing matters to this state but whatever you want.
- Mar 8, 2013
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Hmmm, not sure why but I am sensing future action by Thor . . .
i too feel a disturbance in the force.
- Jun 28, 2009
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when we first started going to the HPRB, there were a few cases that i remember. first, was someone being robbed at gun point-denied=crime of opportunity, the second was someone trying to get a permit for the fact the guy who robbed him was getting out of jail-denied=the individual had no further contact with the defendant in the five years he was in prison. as for the criminal having the address, etc., the rationale is that anyone can google your name and get your address, be it the criminal who robbed you or anyone who wants to robbed you. logic, my friend, logic.
Yep. More and more folks are doing that here in Baltimore. They realize the police can't/won't help them when their life is on the line.
I only wish that I were one of them, but I just can't bring myself to cross that line.
There was indeed a nurse who was assaulted and received a permit because of it. When she went to renew, the MSP decided her threat shelf-life had expired. The MSP overturned the MSP and re-issued her permit. This nurse received a permit because she was previously a victim, not a nurse and not a business owner. I see no difference in this situation.
Kman
Blah, blah, blah
We are truly blessed that the MSP are psychic.
Yes, beats having an objective standard to quantify substantial risk.
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