Need course for MD wear and carry

AliasNeo07 · Oct 11, 2016

Well, I'm going to attempt to get my permit.

I guess I have to get this ridiculous class before doing anything else or staring the application process.

I am a relatively experienced handgun shooter and have a good working knowledge of handguns and their operation. But I have to do the class for the permit.

Prefer to so it 1 on 1 so it moves faster but am willing to join others.

Thanks!

Blaster229 · Oct 11, 2016

Look who's stepping up in the world.

LOL

EKing · Oct 11, 2016

Maryland mandates 16 hours of instruction for the Wear and Carry. Any MSP certified instructor willing to shorten this is putting their own butts on the line and I don't know any who would do this.

Blaster229 · Oct 11, 2016

EKing said:
Maryland mandates 16 hours of instruction for the Wear and Carry. Any MSP certified instructor willing to shorten this is putting their own butts on the line and I don't know any who would do this.

Where did he say he wanted someone to shorten it?

Going through 16 hours with 1 person is MUCH faster than going through it with 20.
Problem is, it would cost $1,000 instead of $250-300.
Well, I'd have to charge that much.

GTOGUNNER · Oct 11, 2016

Actually 16 Hours is the minimum.
Md. PUBLIC SAFETY Code Ann. § 5-306 (2014)

lx1x · Oct 11, 2016

Blaster229 said:
Where did he say he wanted someone to shorten it?

Going through 16 hours with 1 person is MUCH faster than going through it with 20.
Problem is, it would cost $1,000 instead of $250-300.
Well, I'd have to charge that much.

16 hours is 16 hours.. 1 student to 20 students.

Only going to cut time on range/qualification time. Roughly .. 15-30 mins. Give or take. Depending on how big the range is and how.many instructors are available.

Blaster229 · Oct 11, 2016

lx1x said:
16 hours is 16 hours.. 1 student to 20 students.

Only going to cut time on range/qualification time. Roughly .. 15-30 mins. Give or take. Depending on how big the range is and how.many instructors are available.

So, 1 person asking 1 or less questions takes the same amount of time as 20 asking 1 question each?

Also, you're telling me an instructor will make the same amount of money on 1 person compared to 10-15-20?

Not worth an instructor's time to teach 1 person.

lx1x · Oct 11, 2016

Blaster229 said:
So, 1 person asking 1 or less questions takes the same amount of time as 20 asking 1 question each?

Questions are added.. not subtracted to the 16hr min.

Blaster229 · Oct 11, 2016

lx1x said:
Questions are added.. not subtracted to the 16hr min.

Correct. 1 person asking question(s) take LESS time than more people.

Also, a lot of money to be made with only 1 student

lx1x · Oct 11, 2016

Blaster229 said:
Correct. 1 person asking question(s) take LESS time than more people.

Also, a lot of money to be made with only 1 student

If the student willing to pay... Sure.

protegeV · Oct 11, 2016

Pm woodstock. He may be able to help you

AliasNeo07 · Oct 11, 2016

EKing said:
Maryland mandates 16 hours of instruction for the Wear and Carry. Any MSP certified instructor willing to shorten this is putting their own butts on the line and I don't know any who would do this.

Woah woah. I didn't mean that I wanted to pay someone to just sign off on a piece of paper. I know they have to teach the full class and I fully intend on doing it. I just figured that it would go faster with one student than twenty. Wasn't sure if there were mandated courses of fire, exams, and topics that must be covered versus an actual "you must be here for 16 hours no matter what." If it was the former, I figured it would go faster if it was just me.

The law is the law. I don't like it, but I fully intend on abiding by it

AliasNeo07 · Oct 11, 2016

Blaster229 said:
Look who's stepping up in the world. LOL

Well, I'm trying...

Yeah, if it is cost prohibitive I'll just go through a class with others.

woodstock · Oct 11, 2016

protegeV said:
Pm woodstock. He may be able to help you

thank you protegeV.

for the rest of the peanut gallery, i contacted the state police and told them i ONLY do 1 to 1 ratio unless it's friends and family or co-workers. is the 16 hour requirement a mandate or can i modify it to the student? my argument is, i can actually go over much more information with one to two students in a shorter period of time since the learning curve is shortened, the questions aren't by numerous individuals at different learning levels and experience. another question to the state police was also applied to those renewing their permit for the 8 hours. without hesitation he stated that it must be as it is in guidelines or i maybe in violation of maryland law and subject myself to perjury, lose my credentials and suffer the fines and other consequences.

yes, the student will pay more for the 1 to 1 training, but that beats taking a "mill" course, then realize you need additional training to be the safest, professional you can be while armed in public.

if the OP would like to discuss other details, please feel free to PM me.

CypherPunk · Oct 11, 2016

AliasNeo07 said:
Well, I'm going to attempt to get my permit.

I guess I have to get this ridiculous class before doing anything else or staring the application process.

I am a relatively experienced handgun shooter and have a good working knowledge of handguns and their operation. But I have to do the class for the permit.

Prefer to so it 1 on 1 so it moves faster but am willing to join others.

Thanks!

Why not take NRA Basic Pistol Instructor and become a MSP Certified Instructor yourself?

Exempts you from original AND renewal training, plus it's a good experience.

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JMintzer · Oct 11, 2016

Can't you wait until you're approved to get the training? Why waste the $$$ if you're gonna' be denied...

Pretty sure they allow that... Or is that just DC?

torched02 · Oct 11, 2016

Cant get approved unless you have had the training first.......must send in your credentials of the completion of the 8 or 16 hour class with your application to the MSP.

Stoveman · Oct 11, 2016

JMintzer said:
Can't you wait until you're approved to get the training? Why waste the $$$ if you're gonna' be denied...

Pretty sure they allow that... Or is that just DC?

That's just DC.

OP check out Annapolis Defense and Security. They are in Odenton and run a quality operation. Plus they are IP's here.

I believe they offer the W&C permit training the first weekend of every month.

Stoveman · Oct 11, 2016

woodstock said:
thank you protegeV.

for the rest of the peanut gallery, i contacted the state police and told them i ONLY do 1 to 1 ratio unless it's friends and family or co-workers. is the 16 hour requirement a mandate or can i modify it to the student? my argument is, i can actually go over much more information with one to two students in a shorter period of time since the learning curve is shortened, the questions aren't by numerous individuals at different learning levels and experience. another question to the state police was also applied to those renewing their permit for the 8 hours. without hesitation he stated that it must be as it is in guidelines or i maybe in violation of maryland law and subject myself to perjury, lose my credentials and suffer the fines and other consequences.

yes, the student will pay more for the 1 to 1 training, but that beats taking a "mill" course, then realize you need additional training to be the safest, professional you can be while armed in public.

if the OP would like to discuss other details, please feel free to PM me.

Is there an approved syllabus that you follow? Reason I ask is that I can easily envision a scenario in a one on one class where you have thoroughly covered all the topics and there is still 3-4 hours left to get to 16. What then? Spend some extra time at the range?

JMintzer · Oct 11, 2016

Stoveman said:
That's just DC.

OP check out Annapolis Defense and Security. They are in Odenton and run a quality operation. Plus they are IP's here.

I believe they offer the W&C permit training the first weekend of every month.

Thanks. I've applied to so many places, it gets confusing...

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