One Can for 300 Black and 5.56?

calicojack · Jan 4, 2020

So is there any reason not to use a 30 cal can on both 300 black and 5.56? How much better would caliber specific cans be?

sajidakh · Jan 4, 2020

Actually as a general rule 30 cal cans tend to do better on 5.56 than their 5.56 counterparts due to the increased size/volume. The only advantage would be the weight. But with all the new materials/titanium etc, the weight difference is negligible.

Unless there's a screaming deal on a 5.56 can you might as well get a 30 cal for all your boogaloo needs.

teratos · Jan 4, 2020

No reason at all. I use my SDN-6 on both. Works just fine.

calicojack · Jan 4, 2020

Thanks. The 2020 resolutions are; all AR pistols become SBR’s and a can for all.

crolfe1984 · Jan 4, 2020

I've got a Hybrid 46 in NFA jail so I'll let you know in a few months. Give that can a look though... Seriously impressed with its versatility.

DutchV · Jan 4, 2020

The Saker has removable front end caps so you can swap down to a .22 hole. Supposedly it makes it quieter but I haven't done an A-B comparison. Using the .30 cal cap makes 5.56 pretty quiet.

Part of me thinks the "dedicated caliber cans are quieter" line originated with suppressor manufacturers and dealers. Most of us don't have access to multiple cans or audio test gear, so it's hard to tell.

woodline · Jan 4, 2020

According to the industry, caliber specific give you similar performance for less weight and length than an overbore can. I only have one 5.56 specific can (YHM Turbo), with a Turbo K pending. I would rather have a turbo hanging off the end of my 10.5" SBR than a Resonator, but I could deal. YMMV, I don't really have a strong opinion on the subject other than I prefer to dedicate a suppressor to a rifle, and what kind of can I put on there is specific to the rifle (caliber specific, overbore, lightweight, whatever makes sense). But I am dumb and am up to like 9 suppressors and counting, so . . .

danb · Jan 4, 2020

I have both, there is not a noticeable difference. Theoretically there should be, but practically I dont see it.

Only thing I would note about an overbore can, besides versatility, you are somewhat less likely to get an end cap or baffle strike if the can comes loose etc. There is more tolerance for an out of alignment can. Of course, always check! But shit does happen.

calicojack · Jan 5, 2020

fbi_surveillance_van said:
According to the industry, caliber specific give you similar performance for less weight and length than an overbore can. I only have one 5.56 specific can (YHM Turbo), with a Turbo K pending. I would rather have a turbo hanging off the end of my 10.5" SBR than a Resonator, but I could deal. YMMV, I don't really have a strong opinion on the subject other than I prefer to dedicate a suppressor to a rifle, and what kind of can I put on there is specific to the rifle (caliber specific, overbore, lightweight, whatever makes sense). But I am dumb and am up to like 9 suppressors and counting, so . . .

I only have 1 can, so I am only 1/9th as smart as you

[EDIT] And it's just a rimfire can; not sure that even counts.

Balzer94 · Jan 5, 2020

DutchV said:
The Saker has removable front end caps so you can swap down to a .22 hole. Supposedly it makes it quieter but I haven't done an A-B comparison. Using the .30 cal cap makes 5.56 pretty quiet.

Part of me thinks the "dedicated caliber cans are quieter" line originated with suppressor manufacturers and dealers. Most of us don't have access to multiple cans or audio test gear, so it's hard to tell.

One of these days I will need to remember my sound testing equipment from work and actually test this stuff out

woodline · Jan 5, 2020

calicojack said:
I only have 1 can, so I am only 1/9th as smart as you

[EDIT] And it's just a rimfire can; not sure that even counts.

Of course they count! You paid your $200 and waited just like everyone else. When my kids are ready to learn, I am going to teach them to shoot on a suppressed .22 rifle.

DivingDriver · Jan 5, 2020

My favorite shooting pistols are both .22 with cans on them.

balttigger · Jan 5, 2020

That's why I got the SiCo Hybrid. Everything from .223 to .45-70 and you can get .223/.308/.46 end caps (I just stick with the .46 one less I forget which one is on)

geda · Jan 5, 2020

I have a hybrid with all the endcaps as well as a few dedicated suppressors.

-For both super and sub 300blk I can tell a difference between the .46 cap and the .30 cap .
-Supersonic .223 seems like it is just loud through every suppressor, never heard a "hearing safe" .223. I can barely tell a difference with a .22 endcap vs the bigger ones on the hybrid.
-I never use the .22 endcap, .46 endcap gets used for 450 bushmaster, 45-70, 9mm and 45auto, .300 for everything else.
-The mounting system is the more important place to spend money.

I tell my friends to get two supressors, a multi cal .30 or .46, and a dedicated 22lr.

teratos · Jan 5, 2020

geda said:
I have a hybrid with all the endcaps as well as a few dedicated suppressors.

-For both super and sub 300blk I can tell a difference between the .46 cap and the .30 cap .
-Supersonic .223 seems like it is just loud through every suppressor, never heard a "hearing safe" .223. I can barely tell a difference with a .22 endcap vs the bigger ones on the hybrid.
-I never use the .22 endcap, .46 endcap gets used for 450 bushmaster, 45-70, 9mm and 45auto, .300 for everything else.
-The mounting system is the more important place to spend money.

I tell my friends to get two supressors, a multi cal .30 or .46, and a dedicated 22lr.

Good advice.

calicojack · Jan 5, 2020

geda said:
I have a hybrid with all the endcaps as well as a few dedicated suppressors.

-For both super and sub 300blk I can tell a difference between the .46 cap and the .30 cap .
-Supersonic .223 seems like it is just loud through every suppressor, never heard a "hearing safe" .223. I can barely tell a difference with a .22 endcap vs the bigger ones on the hybrid.
-I never use the .22 endcap, .46 endcap gets used for 450 bushmaster, 45-70, 9mm and 45auto, .300 for everything else.
-The mounting system is the more important place to spend money.

I tell my friends to get two supressors, a multi cal .30 or .46, and a dedicated 22lr.

Excellent. I already have the 22 LR; I'll just get a nice 30 cal.

44man · Jan 5, 2020

geda said:
I have a hybrid with all the endcaps as well as a few dedicated suppressors.

-For both super and sub 300blk I can tell a difference between the .46 cap and the .30 cap .
-Supersonic .223 seems like it is just loud through every suppressor, never heard a "hearing safe" .223. I can barely tell a difference with a .22 endcap vs the bigger ones on the hybrid.
-I never use the .22 endcap, .46 endcap gets used for 450 bushmaster, 45-70, 9mm and 45auto, .300 for everything else.
-The mounting system is the more important place to spend money.

I tell my friends to get two supressors, a multi cal .30 or .46, and a dedicated 22lr.

I gotta get a threaded barrel for a 556 so I can see how loud it actually is but until then , and since you obviously have experience with this and I don’t, is it just as loud as without a suppressor and are there any decent 556 or 223 subsoniccsmmo that’s any good?

I just picked up my 30 cal can and haven’t had time to try it out yet

Thanks for anything you can enlighten me with

teratos · Jan 5, 2020

44man said:
I gotta get a threaded barrel for a 556 so I can see how loud it actually is but until then , and since you obviously have experience with this and I don’t, is it just as loud as without a suppressor and are there any decent 556 or 223 subsoniccsmmo that’s any good?

I just picked up my 30 cal can and haven’t had time to try it out yet

Thanks for anything you can enlighten me with

.223 subsonic hits about as hard as .22 subs. Not impressive. .223 is loud. A suppressed AR is about as loud as an unsuppressed.22 firing supers.

SWO Daddy · Jan 5, 2020

I prefer 30cal cans on my 556 guns. Less back pressure, more volume, less anxiety over baffle strikes.

44man · Jan 5, 2020

teratos said:
.223 subsonic hits about as hard as .22 subs. Not impressive. .223 is loud. A suppressed AR is about as loud as an unsuppressed.22 firing supers.

Thanks doc!

I gotta get my gear straight for springtime!

If my tugged surge is a cool as my rugged obsidian 45 I will be tickled to death!!

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