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Old October 5th, 2019, 10:19 PM #1
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Here we go again. Anti hunting/Anti gun horse farmer neighbor tresspassing

My stands are all 40-50 yards or more away from bordering property lines. I am almost always bow only but I do like to pull out my muzzle loader from time to time. Back part of my property that I hunt is about 4 acres and I have permission on adjoining land that gets me to about 16. A lot of it borders up to a horse farm. I hunted the property before I bought it so I have about 20+ years invested in it. Property is posted. I got an email today from the horse farmer about a stand that is 55 yards within my property line. Which means he had to tresspass to take the pic - from behind it. Keep in mind - almost always bow other than 1 or 2 times a year I put 100 grains into the muzzle loader which Imo is pretty quiet compared to a 3 1/2 inch shell in a slug rifle.

Dear Mr Gut Pile
I wonder if this is your deer stand south of our property? It appears to be more than the required 50 feet from our property line, but we are concerned that it is facing our field with mares and foals grazing in it. Should this installation belong to you, I am politely requesting that you change the orientation so that it faces away from our property. Should a horse be inadvertently hit, or the noise of the shot cause a stampede through the fence, this would be a major problem for which damage you would be liable. This is business for us and Thoroughbreds are valuable, and excitable, horses.

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Old October 5th, 2019, 10:39 PM #2
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Unless its a major problem, I think I would do what I could to get along with a neighbor. Its better for you.
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Unless its a major problem, I think I would do what I could to get along with a neighbor. Its better for you.
I disagree. If it is legal for you to hunt on your property, your neighbors dislike of your activity is not your concern. I would counter with a notice that you intend to discharge firearms in the course of legal hunting on your property. If their horses can’t handle it, then they should take precautions to protect their property
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I'd tell him to pound sand.
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OP,

Try talking to the neighbor. Sometimes face to face can clear up a lot of misunderstanding. Maybe y'all can work out some kind of arrangement.

Worst case, you can always tell him to pound sand if nothing else works.
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I would politely ask if they can continue to place alfalfa hay sections in a slightly upwind position was from your favorite stand location and remove the top board from or two sections of fence. Once you explain that quartering away shots can be made without additional risks by your quarry focusing on getting over the fence your time in stand would be greatly reduced minimizing the chance of error the foals would be subjected to.
If they didn't mind dropping off a suit cased bale by about 2 everyday for the nest 12 weeks rotating your stand to your strong side would not be an issue.
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I would email him back and say that for 20 years you have followed the hunting regulations without an incident, and remind him that he should obey the no tresspassing signs.
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Lord Brother, I FEEL YOUR PAIN.

There must be something in horsesh*t or dander that has the potential for inducing narcissism and irrationality in some (too d*mn many [but, not necessarily, all] horse owners!

On the other hand, can’t remember if it was Norris or Lee who opined (loosely translated), “A man is like a piece of steel; when either loses its temper, it loses its effectiveness.”

With that in mind, I might re-orient my stand (doing so will make their next bleating - and let’s face it, WE KNOW THERE IS MORE BULLSH*T COMING - recognizable as “just more unreasonable horse owners”)

BUT!

I’d go out of my way to include a closeup photo of my own, say, from arms length distance or as close as a couple apples and carrots might get me to one of their valuable horses —

attached to a note saying, “Glad to accommodate you and by the way, your horses are amongst the friendliest I’ve ever encountered - they never miss an opportunity to approach my friends and I, anytime any of us are out and about!” (or, make up some make up some compliment about the great condition of a building or some other part of their property you could only know about if you also went welllll onto their property (he-he)...j

Point being, no one will be able to deny your neighborliness BUT! (and more importantly!) THEY WILL GET “THE REAL MESSAGE” - - about the wisdom of staying on their side of the f’ing fence!

Best of luck and, again, I feel your pain -

My wife and I ride, every chance we get. And, we have friends who come close to making a living (or, at least, pissing away their liquid assets) on horses but, that said,

I’ve got stories about some of the utterly stupid sh*t people like this have done to screw things up for target shooters (who were there before they were)!
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The hatred on social media wastelands like Twitter is well known. People say things with the anonymity of the internet that they would never say to someone face to face. Letters have close to that same interpersonal characteristic. I believe your best chance of finding a mutually agreeable solution is to go see your neighbors and have an in-person conversation. You’re much more likely to work something out now, and avoid unknown problems down the road.
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The hatred on social media wastelands like Twitter is well known. People say things with the anonymity of the internet that they would never say to someone face to face. Letters have close to that same interpersonal characteristic. I believe your best chance of finding a mutually agreeable solution is to go see your neighbors and have an in-person conversation. You’re much more likely to work something out now, and avoid unknown problems down the road.
Not bad advice. Actually, darn good advice (but I’d still have that “me and your valuable thoroughbred” photo in my pocket ...
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