Self Defense at Friendship Heights Metro

Occam · Jul 25, 2018

A female Metro employee was sitting in the station's kiosk after midnight Tuesday when a man apparently angry about a delayed train started banging on the kiosk's door. He gained entry, and a physical altercation took place. The Metro employee resorted to using a pocket knife to defend herself, and landed one in her assailant's chest. They hauled the 28 year old Rockville man away in grave condition, and he died at the hospital. Metro police said they're "looking into" whether this was self defense. No word on if the employee was named Xena.

https://wtop.com/dc/2018/07/man-stabbed-at-friendship-heights-metro/

Nanook · Jul 25, 2018

The taking of a life is never a good thing...but that fella clearly gave up civilized behavior and became an animal. I am perfectly fine with the removal of animals from society.

Biggfoot44 · Jul 25, 2018

Employee fired for violating policy aka general orders , in 3,2,1 . ( Not a generic comment .)

pbharvey · Jul 25, 2018

Did he violently shove her to the ground?
Was he backing away when she stabbed him?
Was he done attacking her?
Was this a good stab?

If she was a man, would people expect him to duke it out with the guy rather than pull a knife on him?

Is there a double standard between defensive gun use and other means of stopping an attack?

bigdv · Jul 25, 2018

You have no right to defend yourself. You must let someone beat the crap out of you.

eruby · Jul 25, 2018

bigdv said:
You have no right to defend yourself. You must let someone beat the crap out of you.

..... and the forebearance of reptiles

Alea Jacta Est · Jul 25, 2018

No longer the FREE STATE

Maryland...a victim’s paradise.

Alea Jacta Est · Jul 25, 2018

Cry here, die here.

Mightydog · Jul 25, 2018

Seems like self defense to me. He entered her work area, assaulted her, she fought back. Don’t see anything about her getting fired tho.

44man · Jul 25, 2018

sometimes I really don't get some folks here.

whether its with a gun , knife or a damn spoon when someone attacks you, physically attacks you, and the attacker becomes dead , by any means, we have folks here saying dirty shoot, stabbing or spooning, and the victim should pay since they didn't just lay there and get pounded to death by the attacker.

when someone puts their hands on you then everyone should defend themselves as hard as possible and with as much lethal force as necessary to stop the attack as asap.

why do so many folks believe everyone else should just be a victim?

AssMan · Jul 25, 2018

But what kind of knife did she use?

Mr. Ed · Jul 25, 2018

Unfreaking believable. Guy presumably breaks into a locked office to attack the employee, she uses the only thing she has to defend herself, and MAYBE it's self defense? WTF else could it be?

StantonCree · Jul 25, 2018

Mr. Ed said:
Unfreaking believable. Guy presumably breaks into a locked office to attack the employee, she uses the only thing she has to defend herself, and MAYBE it's self defense? WTF else could it be?

An active investigation so you don’t make conclusive statements

Glaron · Jul 25, 2018

snallygaster said:
But what kind of knife did she use?

I thought that would be obvious... An assault knife!

Mr. Ed · Jul 25, 2018

mpdc4511 said:
An active investigation so you don’t make conclusive statements

Fair enough.

willtill · Jul 25, 2018

44man said:
sometimes I really don't get some folks here.

whether its with a gun , knife or a damn spoon when someone attacks you, physically attacks you, and the attacker becomes dead , by any means, we have folks here saying dirty shoot, stabbing or spooning, and the victim should pay since they didn't just lay there and get pounded to death by the attacker.

when someone puts their hands on you then everyone should defend themselves as hard as possible and with as much lethal force as necessary to stop the attack as asap.

why do so many folks believe everyone else should just be a victim?

Because many, many Marylanders are being\have been conditioned to be defenseless sheep. Mind you there's a lot of Marylanders (here included) that have never been anywhere else, so they have no idea what freedoms and rights are available elsewhere.

Battered Maryland gun owners syndrome... and the trailing vestiges of any other self defence technique; as well as employment of such; are not permitted. :crazy:

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swinokur · Jul 25, 2018

I was eating in Moonies BBQ outside Buford GA last night. Every person working in there was packing openly.

No one even noticed.

America is an amazing place.

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44man · Jul 25, 2018

willtill said:
Because many, many Marylanders are being\have been conditioned to be defenseless sheep. Mind you there's a lot of Marylanders (here included) that have never been anywhere else, so they have no idea what freedoms and rights are available elsewhere.

Battered Maryland gun owners syndrome... and the trailing vestiges of any other self defence technique; as well as employment of such; are not permitted.
.

I am from here, southern md, and I know very few folks from down here who think like that . granted I don't know many implants to here but in general putting your hands on someone down here is a really bad idea.

or maybe its just a rural or redneck thing, idk

Alea Jacta Est · Jul 25, 2018

Unwanted touching...y’all dont like that BUT the state and counties reach into your pocket early and often. They’ve also managed to strip most of you of the dignity and righteousness of self protection. That’s pretty egregious imo.

Putting your hands on someone else who doesn’t want or expect it is bad. Putting your hands on them in an aggressive or violent manner is unsat and frankly deserving of appropriate response. What is appropriate you ask. Well, I’m thinking you invite an ass kicking at a minimum and maybe a profound beating if appropriate. Self defense is a continuum thing. Unlike police, citizens (in free states in America anyhow) can move up the use of force continuum as quickly as they feel compelled. That’s for a jury to decide.

Jumping from push or shove to gunplay might just be too much escalation if at once.

What’s enough force? Enough to stop the threat.

Only dumbasses lay hands on other folks. Don’t be a dumbass. Karma trolls dumbasses. Results are not often pretty.

Cause. Effect. Behavior modification.

Occam · Jul 25, 2018

This also serves as a reminder of how quickly these things can escalate from "guy seems angry" to "omg he's in my booth and assaulting me" - with zero chance that dialing 911 and being patient for the police was going to alter the guy's immediate and dangerous behavior. These things erupt in moments, not minutes. Of course I don't like that this happened. But I like that it serves as a self defense case study without the (public/media) distraction of a gun having been involved.

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