Budget O/U opinions?
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STeveZ
Thank you, Abelard
He's willing to travel an hour from Gettysburg for a FTF, which puts most of N. MD within reach. You could meet at an FFL but I don't think you have to.
buellsfurn
Ultimate Member
anyone no anything about AVM Brescia Italy looks alike a Beretta
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
Wrong.
Transfer across state lines REQUIRES an FFL. That is Federal Law.
But yes, he could drive to a PA FFL, meet the seller there, and the seller gives to FFL, FFL transfers to buyer.
bigmanindc
Active Member
I'm gonna start using my Maverick 88 until I get the Stoeger FTS Condor Over/Under Shotgun!!!!!!
Aamdskeetshooter
Ultimate Member
bigmanindc
Active Member
Aamdskeetshooter
Ultimate Member
LOL They get you that excited?
Not in a good way. I’ll just come out and say that they’re junk. I haven’t met one person that didn’t regret buying one.
bigmanindc
Active Member
Yea I do believe you get what you pay for but FOR the amount of shooting that I do I can't justify the 4 digit O/U purchase.
PS I have made many budget purchases in the pass and afterwards was like that was a damn waste of money so in the future I don't wanna hear "I TOLD YOU SO"
fabsroman
Ultimate Member
Yea I do believe you get what you pay for but FOR the amount of shooting that I do I can't justify the 4 digit O/U purchase.
PS I have made many budget purchases in the pass and afterwards was like that was a damn waste of money so in the future I don't wanna hear "I TOLD YOU SO"
Just to beat the horse a little more for tenderising. I agree with AA. I had one friend buy a Stoeger Condor o/u and his shooting went to crap. At first, we both said it was just a matter of getting used to the gun. A full season of clays and hunting and his shooting was miserable whereas before buying the Stoeger he would rival me. So, in late winter we went to shoot hand thrown clays at a farm and he was still missing. So, I hung a clay on a tree and had him shoot it. Bottom barrel, no problem..Top barrel he could not hit it. We had to play around to see where that top barrel was shooting. The two barrels were not shooting in the same spot. Guess another lesson was learned. If he had patterned both barrels, he would have known the top barrel was way off.
Hard to believe that Beretta owns Stoeger and allows such crappy quality control. Then again, I guess that is the difference between $500 and $1,500 for an o/u.
Aamdskeetshooter
Ultimate Member
Yea I do believe you get what you pay for but FOR the amount of shooting that I do I can't justify the 4 digit O/U purchase.
PS I have made many budget purchases in the pass and afterwards was like that was a damn waste of money so in the future I don't wanna hear "I TOLD YOU SO"
I understand not everyone can justify a $1000+ gun. My recommendation has always been to stick with pumps or autos if that is the case. You’d be better off buying a $400 Remington 870 or used 1100 than that Stoeger. A used Winchester 101 or a used SKB would be better also but I don’t know the going rates for them these days. They may be in the $700 range. Those guns won’t break. After 10’s of thousands of rounds if something does break anyone can fix it with parts widely available. Not so much with the Stoeger. Or just stick with your Maverick or buy another Mossberg. The crazy thing is Stoeger is owned by Benelli which is owned by Beretta.
I’m not sure I understand your PS comment but the way I read it is that you’ve bought cheap things before and it’s come back to haunt you but you’re going to do it again? And you don’t want to hear I told you so? All I can say is some people learn from their mistakes and some don’t. Good luck with whatever you buy. Peace out.
buellsfurn
Ultimate Member
bump
Cryptotek1
Active Member
- May 1, 2017
- 181
Stoeger O/U's don't have the best reputation but I've had fantastic luck with their M3000 semi auto. Uses very similar inertia system as the Benelli and accepts many Benelli internal parts. My M3000 has jammed once (FTE) out of several thousand rounds so far. Sometimes I rattle off shots as quickly as possible just to try to get it to jam; doesn't happen. I am 100% satisfied with my $500 shotgun that can take abuse in the field or the range.
If you're set on a budget O/U, the Tristar is far superior in my experience. I own a 12g Setter model and it has always fired. I have maybe 7,000 rounds through it so far. And the gun set me back about $400. When I upgrade it will be a backup/loaner gun.
If you're set on a budget O/U, the Tristar is far superior in my experience. I own a 12g Setter model and it has always fired. I have maybe 7,000 rounds through it so far. And the gun set me back about $400. When I upgrade it will be a backup/loaner gun.
Doco Overboard
Ultimate Member
Thats an interesting observation and one that not that many people talk about. Cross firing or an open shooting gun can occur in any double gun no matter how well its made or what it cost. You can find out by targeting the barrel by looking at a thick heavy drawn line while looking through the barrels at the same time at the distance or range you plan to shoot. Increasing or decreasing the distance will help determine the amount the barrels need to be spread apart or harder to correct if they need to be brought together.
All it takes is a threaded choke tube that's not perpendicular to the bore a warped rib or one that's not thick enough out towards the muzzle.
If the gun cross fires at around thirty yards the barrels will need to be refitted at the breech face and this is one of the reasons a cheap gun will perform better than an expensive one if it happens to need adjusted. Probably another reason why some guns cost a ton of money.
Same thing for double rifles or drillings, they need to be properly regulated which gets expensive.
Aamdskeetshooter
Ultimate Member
United gun shop posted a used Browning lightning for $800. I don’t know bbl length, condition, or if it’s screw choked but that would be a great example of a good budget O/U.
Posts 3257 and 3258.
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=179463&page=326
Posts 3257 and 3258.
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=179463&page=326
STeveZ
Thank you, Abelard
I could be 100% wrong but I look at those pictures and think Belgian made trap doubles gun, 30", M/F.
Augie
Ultimate Member
Looks nice but I'm pretty sure it's a trap gun also.
fabsroman
Ultimate Member
Yeah, not much drop at comb. Thing is, a lot of trap guns have Monte Carlo stocks. Maybe the original owner did not want that. Think my Japanese made Lightning has more drop at comb, but it has the same type of butt pad.
Then again, it is a Browning. Where's the puke emoji.
bigmanindc
Active Member
I understand not everyone can justify a $1000+ gun. My recommendation has always been to stick with pumps or autos if that is the case. You’d be better off buying a $400 Remington 870 or used 1100 than that Stoeger. A used Winchester 101 or a used SKB would be better also but I don’t know the going rates for them these days. They may be in the $700 range. Those guns won’t break. After 10’s of thousands of rounds if something does break anyone can fix it with parts widely available. Not so much with the Stoeger. Or just stick with your Maverick or buy another Mossberg. The crazy thing is Stoeger is owned by Benelli which is owned by Beretta.
I’m not sure I understand your PS comment but the way I read it is that you’ve bought cheap things before and it’s come back to haunt you but you’re going to do it again? And you don’t want to hear I told you so? All I can say is some people learn from their mistakes and some don’t. Good luck with whatever you buy. Peace out.
Looking elsewhere but the Stoeger is still on the radar!!!!
photoracer
Competition Shooter
Quick question not exactly off topic but from where to where do you measure the barrel length on an O/U?
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