7.5" SBR question

snyperdave · Dec 4, 2014

So as I understand it now, even though the ATF approved my form 1 for my 7.5" barrel OAL is under 29" back in March I cannot have it assemble because it is illegal.

What do I do with the barrel now and how do I go about putting longer barrel on it to make it legal when the stamp was for the length under 29"

SWO Daddy · Dec 4, 2014

You could always make a pistol.........

IMBLITZVT · Dec 4, 2014

snyperdave said:
So I as I understand it now, even though the ATF approved my form 1 for my 7.5" barrel OAL is under 29" back in March I cannot have it assemble because it is illegal.

What do I do with the barrel now and how do I go about putting longer barrel on it to make it legal when the stamp was for the length under 29"

I am not going to say what I am thinking.

If it was me before I did a thing I would call MSP. I would like to hear them explain how this is not legal to complete this build. If you did a trust, maybe an issue. If not, if you have a form with MSP sign off on it saying its legal for you to own that firearm, I would like to hear how this would be illegal. God knows its not based on the law. However I would like a MSP answer rather than an internet expert answer on it... not that the internet expert is not smarter than MSP.

snyperdave · Dec 5, 2014

Yes it was on a trust mailed out to the ATF In June of 2013 and finally approved in March 2014.

SWO Daddy · Dec 5, 2014

snyperdave said:
Yes it was on a trust mailed out to the ATF In June of 2013 and finally approved in March 2014.

IANAL - but I think the chances of you ever being successfully prosecuted (or even charged) are slim to none, even without an MSP sign-off.

snyperdave · Dec 5, 2014

I can change out the flash hider and put on my flaming pig to get rid of one of the dumb copycat features but the length will still be shy of 29"

outrider58 · Dec 5, 2014

Could always sell the bbl. Right?

snyperdave · Dec 5, 2014

outrider58 said:
Could always sell the bbl. Right?

I can sell it. But can I put a 10.5" on there even though the form 1 was for a 7.5"?

outrider58 · Dec 5, 2014

snyperdave said:
I can sell it. But can I put a 10.5" on there even though the form 1 was for a 7.5"?

Yes. No law against going longer. :thumbsup:

SWO Daddy · Dec 5, 2014

snyperdave said:
I can sell it. But can I put a 10.5" on there even though the form 1 was for a 7.5"?

You need to be able to return it to the approved configuration. Alternatively, you could send a letter to the ATF notifying them of a permanent change in configuration (if you sell the barrel).

outrider58 · Dec 5, 2014

SWO Daddy said:
You need to be able to return it to the approved configuration. Alternatively, you could send a letter to the ATF notifying them of a permanent change in configuration (if you sell the barrel).

Would merely keeping the bbl. satisfy that requirement? The upper isn't engraved, only the lower. Wouldn't keeping the 7.5 on a receiver be in violation? Your damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Wfilardo · Dec 6, 2014

Make it a pistol and eat the tax stamp. Same thing happened to me with Kriss Vector. Also if the Engauge lawsuit goes anywhere forcing MD to change the 29" requirement you can put the stock back on.

SWO Daddy · Dec 6, 2014

outrider58 said:
Would merely keeping the bbl. satisfy that requirement? The upper isn't engraved, only the lower. Wouldn't keeping the 7.5 on a receiver be in violation? Your damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I think you're fine if you just kept the barrel. Or....buy a stripped lower and turn it into a pistol.

Jakedasnake · Dec 9, 2014

Just put a frigging 10.5" barrel on it. Anything shorter is frigging pointless anyway.

Fear nothing, Nor anyone!

Jakedasnake · Dec 9, 2014

You can ALWAYS go longer, never shorter.

Fear nothing, Nor anyone!

snyperdave · Dec 15, 2014

I very well may do the 10.5". Was not happy with the chamber in the one I have anyway.

What does it take to make a pistol AR?

MACTHEGUN · Dec 16, 2014

snyperdave said:
I very well may do the 10.5". Was not happy with the chamber in the one I have anyway.

What does it take to make a pistol AR?

You would need to start with a virgin receiver (that has never been documented as being part of a rifle) then you can put on whatever length barrel you'd like. At that point you could install a Sig brace and you would have a Maryland shorty "SBR" (kinda silly ain't it?).

snyperdave · Dec 18, 2014

The SIG brace uses the same buffer tube?

SWO Daddy · Dec 18, 2014

Jakedasnake said:
You can ALWAYS go longer, never shorter.

Fear nothing, Nor anyone!

MD state laws aside, this is wrong wrong wrong.

pwoolford · Dec 18, 2014

SWO Daddy said:
MD state laws aside, this is wrong wrong wrong.

What is wrong with this statement? I thought you could change out uppers but were okay as long as you could return the setup to the configuration listed on the form 1.

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