Ghost Gun Ban

randyho · Aug 14, 2018

Hope isn't a good plan

Sundazes · Aug 14, 2018

You guys realize this is an open forum don't you?

Mark75H · Aug 14, 2018

randyho said:
Hope isn't a good plan

2013 pretty much proved its all we have

Mr H · Aug 14, 2018

sundazes said:
You guys realize this is an open forum don't you?

Then let them know this...

Objective 1. Break the Supermajority.

Docster · Aug 14, 2018

sundazes said:
You guys realize this is an open forum don't you?

^^THIS. That's why I'm shocked, I say SHOCKED, to see Polymer Glock frames at Midway as low as $119 and Delta Tactical selling a G19 frame AND barrel for $149. It's as if they're encouraging violence by coercing folks into stocking up on these tools of destruction. Nobody needs to make their own weapons much less at a price almost less than the cost of buying one

There's going to be blood in the streets I tell you.

AG Frosh, I'm going on the record here and now as being totally disgusted and I encourage all law-abiding patriots here to not not get involved in this kind of operation.

Sincerely,
A Humble Subject

teratos · Aug 14, 2018

Docster said:
^^THIS. That's why I'm shocked, I say SHOCKED, to see Polymer Glock frames at Midway as low as $119 and Delta Tactical selling a G19 frame AND barrel for $149. It's as if they're encouraging violence by coercing folks into stocking up on these tools of destruction. Nobody needs to make their own weapons much less at a price almost less than the cost of buying one

There's going to be blood in the streets I tell you.

AG Frosh, I'm going on the record here and now as being totally disgusted and I encourage all law-abiding patriots here to not not get involved in this kind of operation.

Sincerely,
A Humble Subject

Here, here!!!

Rab1515 · Aug 15, 2018

Docster said:
^^THIS. That's why I'm shocked, I say SHOCKED, to see Polymer Glock frames at Midway as low as $119 and Delta Tactical selling a G19 frame AND barrel for $149. It's as if they're encouraging violence by coercing folks into stocking up on these tools of destruction. Nobody needs to make their own weapons much less at a price almost less than the cost of buying one

There's going to be blood in the streets I tell you.

AG Frosh, I'm going on the record here and now as being totally disgusted and I encourage all law-abiding patriots here to not not get involved in this kind of operation.

Sincerely,
A Humble Subject

You can get p80 frames for as low as $91.

erwos · Aug 15, 2018

Rab1515 said:
You can get p80 frames for as low as $91.

Where?

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ironbag · Aug 15, 2018

You can usually find the gen 1 versions without the metal slide rails for $50-$60

Rab1515 · Aug 15, 2018

I sware it's not a porn sight. https://www.bigdaddyunlimited.com
It requires a subscription, but the first month is 99 cents and $10 a month after.

LRoberts · Aug 15, 2018

aquaman said:
LMAO! Ban something that has no record of manufacture. That's the whole point of ghost guns, to keep prostitutes like her from disarming the public

Prostitute? You disgrace prostitutes, kind sir. LOL Have you seen this fat hog? A guy would have be to hard up or drunk to get in HER bed. She's a 2-bagger, mate.

LRoberts · Aug 15, 2018

teratos said:
Meh.

Yep, put a SSN on it like: XXX-XX-1234 and nothing the communists can do about it.
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LRoberts · Aug 15, 2018

aquaman said:
Lol. We all know what these 80% er's are for. They're for when the party starts.

Surprise commies! We're still armed and outgun you!

Amen, Brother!
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LRoberts · Aug 15, 2018

Muleskinner said:
And yet many here will still vote for him.

Better than a dim0crap alternative, Look at what that queer, Schaefer, did.
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LRoberts · Aug 15, 2018

erwos said:
Cali dodges this by issuing you a serial number, at least in theory.

Unacceptable.
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fxk · Aug 15, 2018

Because they're scarwry. OMG! Folks having guns no one knows about? At least they got rid of those .22 automobile antennae. Just think about the possibilities: Shoot someone and melt it back down in the home oven - serial number or no.
Feds say 90% plastic receivers are OK. Doesn't fed law pre-empt state law?

fxk · Aug 15, 2018

Muleskinner said:
And yet many here will still vote for him.

Options?

fxk · Aug 15, 2018

erwos said:
Hell, I've got probably $1000+ in my Glocks, so I understand your pain.

The thing with this is, just saying "serialize your guns" does absolutely nothing for traceability. Like, who's gonna know what some random engraving on my gun means for who manufactured it? The only way it helps is if I have to register it with the MSP... and I suspect that's what Dumais is trying to figure out how to make work. In other words, the end game is registration.

Now, the good news is, you wouldn't have to be on the roster (probably) as is.

They'll do it just like Cali - the serial number has to meet certain criteria not something you can make up according to some set of rules - it has to be handed out by the state authority - Registration and a serial number other than "1" all in one, felony I suppose to be caught unserialized or improperly serialized. Older un- or mis- serialized would unlikely be grandfathered in.
Of course, with the relative ease of manufacture, just apply the same serial number to all - who is to say which gun is which. That would get back to ballistic testing - the unused one in your safe wouldn't match anything.
But in cali, would this home made "ghost" gun be subject to the dual-marking ballistic fingerprinting and/or require a fired round?

It is farcical to believe any of this will a) work b) be of any use in crime fighting. Just another useless, unenforceable law on the books. Crimefighting signaling. Feel good legislation.

jrumann59 · Aug 15, 2018

so if I own like 50 aluminum paper weights when would I need to serialize? After the illegal to own date can I still make those paperweights into guns since I owned them prior to the date? Do I have to take in to register or do I just provide a list of serial numbers and descriptions? Ok it is illegal to own unserialized firearm prior to date XX/XX/????. Ok what if I owned it prior to, how will they know I owned it prior to?

iH8DemLibz · Aug 15, 2018

jrumann59 said:
so if I own like 50 aluminum paper weights when would I need to serialize? After the illegal to own date can I still make those paperweights into guns since I owned them prior to the date? Do I have to take in to register or do I just provide a list of serial numbers and descriptions? Ok it is illegal to own unserialized firearm prior to date XX/XX/????. Ok what if I owned it prior to, how will they know I owned it prior to?

We'll know the answer to all of these questions after the 2019-2023 governor signs off on the ghost gun legislation submitted by the MGA.

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