Carrying without a permit, no-no.

montoya32 said:

I could be way off, but I believe Woodstock is an attorney. Sounds like he may have a client and we are about to see a complete sh*t storm.

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Not an attorney.

I tàke this as wise advice. I worked in that piss hole for12 years been back to MD for cancer treatments so many times I lost count. Each timevmy Handgun stayed home. As a result I have a clean record and a CCW from the Sherrif. I would not put that at risk. A normal person will be put through a ringer as RD once described in a thread that everyone gets paid in the Baltimore justice system by catch and release. Us they will make an example.

montoya32 said:

I could be way off, but I believe Woodstock is an attorney. Sounds like he may have a client and we are about to see a complete sh*t storm.

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Nope, just a self employed state license handgun instructor trying to make ends meet and keep people safe.

"Why so cryptic? State your experience and how you think things are trending. Everyone knows its illegal to carry without a permit. Most here, I would guess, value their freedom enough not to risk arrest for an illegal carry."

me: If you paid attention to my opening on this thread, i specifically stated "...everyone HERE is law abiding to a fault, but..."

Cryptic? Please define if inclined.

montoya32 said:

I could be way off, but I believe Woodstock is an attorney. Sounds like he may have a client and we are about to see a complete sh*t storm.

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I always got the impression he was involved in firearms training. CCW permit qualifications. Etc.

Turns out that he is.

Its all about free will to jeopardize losing or gaining is at your discretion!

blog on my website.

iH8DemLibz said:

I always got the impression he was involved in firearms training. CCW permit qualifications. Etc.

Turns out that he is.

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Mass shootings, urban violence and suicide/murder.
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Mass shootings: To my recollection, every mass shooting has taken place in a GUN FREE ZONE. At the date of this posting, the Las Vegas shooting is still under investigation and I will remark when that investigation is complete.
To the topic, the Pulse Nightclub, FLA, San Bernadino, CA, Sutherland Springs, TX, and more. Every venue was GUN FREE. Proving only the law abiding citizen obeys the law and GUN FREE ZONES are killing fields. Bad guys don’t obey the law.
Urban Violence: I am always at a loss to understand the mantra “gun violence”, when in actuality it is violence, period. GUN VIOLENCE? How can an inanimate object be violent? Unfortunately many folks have been led to believe the gun was at fault for catastrophes endured. This is a false narrative/opinion. Guns can be no more at fault for a tragedy than a car or swimming pool. In the urban community, criminals thrive in drug turf wars, “customers” who want stuff for free-at gun point-and an overall disrespect for life. Culture norms are “we don’t snitch” or “talk to the police” and therein lies the problem. Illegally obtained guns are plentiful. Illegally obtained.
Fear of the criminals will only breed MORE criminals, TAKE A STAND!
Suicide/murder: How do we legislate the sick/evil mind? Example, someone buys a gun in 1994, goes through a wonderful, happy married life and when the spouse decides to leave and divorce, he/she can’t take it and decides to snuff each other. How do we prevent THAT? Gun control? Back ground checks? Sigh, I have no answer…
The author of this post compares our WAR ON DRUGS equal to the WAR ON GUNS. History here, the war on drugs have been ongoing with dismal results. Certain drugs are illegal for personal use, distribution, etc. Yet, just about every drug known, can be procured through the proper conduits, legally or illegally. Same with guns.
Law abiding citizens do not abuse illegal or legally dispensed drugs nor do we illegally abuse our right to bear arms. Compare the national overdose stats to accidental shootings/intentional shootings and see which holds the greatest comparison.
Bottom line here, guns don’t commit crimes and buildings don’t make a ghetto, people do.
Stay safe!

woodstock said:

Nope, just a self employed state license handgun instructor trying to make ends meet and keep people safe.

"Why so cryptic? State your experience and how you think things are trending. Everyone knows its illegal to carry without a permit. Most here, I would guess, value their freedom enough not to risk arrest for an illegal carry."

me: If you paid attention to my opening on this thread, i specifically stated "...everyone HERE is law abiding to a fault, but..."

Cryptic? Please define if inclined.

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Right, but you also stated buckle your seat belts folks. I guess that was for the people we might know who carry illegally?
I said cryptic only because you said "buckle up because I talked to a city prosecutor" but you never told us the punch line.

Talk slow so I can understand

3 pages deep and I still have no idea what this thread is about........

Klunatic said:

3 pages deep and I still have no idea what this thread is about........

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You better buckle your seat belt!

Stoveman said:

Not an attorney.

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My bad. Can't keep screen names straight.

pbharvey said:

Right, but you also stated buckle your seat belts folks. I guess that was for the people we might know who carry illegally?
I said cryptic only because you said "buckle up because I talked to a city prosecutor" but you never told us the punch line.

Talk slow so I can understand

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IT HAS BEEN RUMORED that folks are arming up because of the uptick in violent assaults, and they are arming themselves "illegally", according to the state. WCBM's Bruce Elliot has made reference in his morning shows.

KLUNITIC i am advising everyone here, that new rules/laws have passed and unless you stay on top of what is going on, WE THE PEPLE are doomed.

iH8DemLibz said:

Fourteen year old Thug Life gets caught with a loaded handgun and no permit and is released. Only to get caught doing it a second time.

Middle aged Harry Homeowner gets caught with a loaded handgun and no permit and goes away for five years. And loses all future gun owning rights.

Gotta love Maryland.

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Exactly! It's so bass ackwards that it boggles my mind...and pisses me off!

If you voluntarily go some place that is so dangerous that you feel compelled to break the law and carry illegally for your own protection then you better have an extremely compelling reason.

Work
Shopping
Attending an event.
Restaurant
Dr's appointment.
Visiting
Because it is the shortest route.
etc.

Are not reason enough. The reason should be good enough to ask for and receive a police escort.

I welcome suggestions as to what is worth your risking your right to bear arms, reputation, and freedom for.

Just make sure to commit a violent or drug offense when you’re carrying. The state will drop the gun charges.


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Just make sure to commit a violent or drug offense when you’re carrying. The state will drop the gun charges.


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ah, not so. criteria has to be met.

woodstock said:

IT HAS BEEN RUMORED that folks are arming up because of the uptick in violent assaults, and they are arming themselves "illegally", according to the state. WCBM's Bruce Elliot has made reference in his morning shows.

KLUNITIC i am advising everyone here, that new rules/laws have passed and unless you stay on top of what is going on, WE THE PEPLE are doomed.

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Thank you

What are these new laws?

Also what's wrong with the old laws, the ones that are supposed to keep the bad guys from shooting innocent people and robbing them and stealing their cars and pushing them in the harbor?

woodstock said:

IT HAS BEEN RUMORED that folks are arming up because of the uptick in violent assaults, and they are arming themselves "illegally", according to the state. WCBM's Bruce Elliot has made reference in his morning shows.

KLUNITIC i am advising everyone here, that new rules/laws have passed and unless you stay on top of what is going on, WE THE PEPLE are doomed.

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Woodstock, it would be much more helpful if you spelled out the new laws and where they apply. That way we can "stay on top of what is going on". Vague warnings of doom do us little good.

pbharvey said:

Thank you

What are these new laws?

Also what's wrong with the old laws, the ones that are supposed to keep the bad guys from shooting innocent people and robbing them and stealing their cars and pushing them in the harbor?

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new laws, second class misdemeanor and labeled a PROHIBITED PERSON. more aggressive attacks on LAWFUL gun ownership. STAY INFORMED!!!

OLD LAWS ARE OVERWRITTEN to the new laws. get up to speed.

woodstock said:

new laws, second class misdemeanor and labeled a PROHIBITED PERSON. more aggressive attacks on LAWFUL gun ownership. STAY INFORMED!!!

OLD LAWS ARE OVERWRITTEN to the new laws. get up to speed.

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Are you referring to new "PROPOSED" laws? As MD General Assembly hasn't passed any new laws since last session in April.

woodstock said:

"Better to be judged by 12 than carried by six." Have you seen the 12 that will determine your fate? I have sat through 3 jury selection proceedings, i do NOT want to be judged by what i have seen. IF found guilty to the gun charges, you will surrender your guns and ammo to the authorities and will never experience the thrill that you have when you have not been NOT-DISAPPROVED for a gun purchase. << see what i did?

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Yup, I always see that phrase, better to be judged by 12.....but in reality your life as you know it would
be over. As f***ed up as that is, it's the sad reality of living in the People's Republic of Maryland. The land where thugs are coddled and honest, law abiding citizens are punished. A decent person, with no ill intent and only a desire of the basic human right of self defense, would be bankrupted at the very least. It sucks my a$$ that we have to make the choice between that or the possibility of succumbing to the predators. This f***ed up state would love to make an example of average Joe to show they were tough on gun laws....The actual problem perps? Doesn't seem they care too much about dealing with them...