Dems STOLE Hogan's RED FLAG Bill!

Rack&Roll · Apr 25, 2018

JHsmith: I stand by my statement on Democrats. Name me an elected local, state or federal Democrat or a Democrat candidate who cherishes the 2nd Amendment and will defend 2A no matter what.

People who vote for elected Democrats or Democrat candidates, are people voting for those who are actively working to infringement on the 2nd Amendment, or worse, strip the 2nd Amendment from the Bill of Rights.

As for that pension stuff, yes, I will take your bet.

Redact any personal info on your Railroad Pension papers and post them here, highlighting the language that says you lose your pension simply if you are arrested.

If you prove me wrong, I'm gone, and gone for good. (Surrender Monkeys, Quislings, and Smart Girls CHEER wildly)

If you lose the bet and you are proven to be mistaken about losing your pension over an arrest, you don't have to leave. You have to stay and join at least one Patriot Picket and hold a sign of your own making.

Deal?

fabsroman · Apr 25, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
Happy to have this discussion right here.

I didn't know why you would start a thread about one of the most contentious issues of the year--bump stock confiscation--and then switch to talking about real estate you wished you owned. I bashed you for not taking the threat we face seriously. I still don't know why you didn't take confiscation of our property seriously. I don't know why you derailed your own thread. It wasn't "TV Shows I'm Watching", it was a real and important topic about a fight we have with our enemies..

Now, you've not been shy about saying you are a man of means and enjoy large houses and large properties. Many others here are not so well off and some are losing their homes while you are pondering about moving from a grand house to an even grander one. This, despite despicable people are trying to put us in jail for legit firearms property that I thought we are trying to protect.

Love ya bro, but I don't apologize for bashing you about rattling jewelry in the middle of a fight.

What makes you think I did NOT take the threat we faced seriously? You think I started a thread about it for craps and giggles? You think I read the bill just for additional craps and giggles and because I did not care about it? You think I showed up with two of my kids to your "More Patriots Than You Have Handcuffs" demonstration and put my kids at risk because I did not take it seriously? I take it so seriously that I ponder leaving my parents and siblings and moving to another state, but I know I would be miserable for a completely different reason then, so I stay and fight. How do you know what I do and do not take seriously? How do you know what I do and do not do to further the cause? You presume and assume a lot.

lol - nice way to obfuscate though about the "jewelry". Is the cause about your popularity or about doing the right thing? Is the cause about your fame, glory, and respect, or about doing the right thing? Why would you use my thread to coordinate/organize your week? Why would you lay out all of that stuff about me having to show you respect and listing why I need to show you respect? You would have been better off just asking me to remove the house posts. Is it that I did not take the issue seriously enough, that it appeared I did not respect you enough so you felt compelled to tell me why I should respect you, or that you are just jealous. Like my father says, "Complimenting yourself means nothing. Receiving compliments from others means everything."

Sorry that it irritates you that my wife and I are looking at buying a bigger house, but isn't that the "Republican" way, the capitalistic way? Not that I have to justify our move to you or anybody else, but what the heck. There are two main reasons for our move. The first is that we decided to have a 4th child, which turned out to be a third girl, and a 3 bedroom house will not work. Of course, it would work if we really had to make it work, but luckily we do not have to make it work. Lord knows my parents made it work with three kids sleeping in a queen bed in the same room. Lord knows my dad in Italy lived in a 2 room, not 2 bedroom, but 2 room house with 5 people in his family. Had we gotten a 2nd boy, then two girls and two boys would have roomed together and we would have most likely stayed put. The second reason is that where we are right now is getting too crowded population wise and too liberal. So, in moving we might as well get a larger house. Yes, people are losing their homes as I write this, but there are plenty of welfare programs in place to help with that to a degree. There is unemployment insurance, food stamps, section 8 housing which provides for better living quarters than most people in the world enjoy, the thought of not buying more house than one can afford (i.e., responsibility), saving for a rainy day, etc. Are you trying to make me out to be a bad guy because I want a larger house in a better area? That really is hilarious. Are you really that jealous?

You know, you could have started your own thread to pursue your fight and left my thread entirely alone. Just saying.

I do not apologize for not following your orders about taking down the posts about the houses. Learn to ask a little better next time and you might get what you wish. It appears you have lost the respect of others on this board that share your same view of the fight. Have to wonder how much respect you entertain from the other side. Do you just send them e-mails demanding their respect like what you sent me in that PM? Do you tell those people on the General Assembly that you drive 70 miles round trip 3 to 5 days a week for the cause, and by golly, they will show you the respect you are due and that you so deserve. If so, it ain't working. Then again, this isn't about you earning respect, fame, and glory. It is all about the cause and these serious issues we face.

I'd say I love you too, but that four letter word is reserved for a very select few in my life. Let's just say that I like you a lot, I just don't respect you a lot right now.

fabsroman · Apr 25, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
JHsmith: I stand by my statement on Democrats. Name me an elected local, state or federal Democrat or a Democrat candidate who cherishes the 2nd Amendment and will defend 2A no matter what.

People who vote for elected Democrats or Democrat candidates, are people voting for those who are actively working to infringement on the 2nd Amendment, or worse, strip the 2nd Amendment from the Bill of Rights.

As for that pension stuff, yes, I will take your bet.

Redact any personal info on your Railroad Pension papers and post them here, highlighting the language that says you lose your pension simply if you are arrested.

If you prove me wrong, I'm gone, and gone for good. (Surrender Monkeys, Quislings, and Smart Girls CHEER wildly)

If you lose the bet and you are proven to be mistaken about losing your pension over an arrest, you don't have to leave. You have to stay and join at least one Patriot Picket and hold a sign of your own making.

Deal?

Might depend on whether he can make bail or not.

https://rrb.gov/sites/default/files/2017-06/FOM1_150.pdf

Most likely though, he would not lose his benefits.

You ever apologize to anybody in your life?

j_h_smith · Apr 25, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
JHsmith: I stand by my statement on Democrats. Name me an elected local, state or federal Democrat or a Democrat candidate who cherishes the 2nd Amendment and will defend 2A no matter what.

People who vote for elected Democrats or Democrat candidates, are people voting for those who are actively working to infringement on the 2nd Amendment, or worse, strip the 2nd Amendment from the Bill of Rights.

As for that pension stuff, yes, I will take your bet.

Redact any personal info on your Railroad Pension papers and post them here, highlighting the language that says you lose your pension simply if you are arrested.

If you prove me wrong, I'm gone, and gone for good. (Surrender Monkeys, Quislings, and Smart Girls CHEER wildly)

If you lose the bet and you are proven to be mistaken about losing your pension over an arrest, you don't have to leave. You have to stay and join at least one Patriot Picket and hold a sign of your own making.

Deal?

This is the what I could find at this hour.

https://rrb.gov/sites/default/files/2017-06/FOM1_150.pdf

I'll try to find a less lawyereze explanation later today.

Norton · Apr 25, 2018

Clean up completed and infractions issued.

Will be a damned shame if people that are going to the Pig Roast are unable to post about it leading up to it and after.

I guess I better bring my food taster with me and also my Dalton car so I can get home.

Any more name calling or blame gaming and I'm breaking out the long knives.

Activism in this state belongs to no one person or group of persons.

welder516 · Apr 25, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
I can explain this. The screen grab I put up is one that welder himself was trying to put up but could not figure out how. If you bother to look you can see his post saying that he wanted to put up our private text conversation but could not figure out how, so in an effort to be transparent I put up the text message that welder wanted to put up.

So if I put up the private text message that welder wants everyone to see, why am I the bad guy for helping to make that happen?

For the record, I think it is improper for someone to publish someone else’s private text messages without their permission, which welder admits he was trying to do. Does that raise questions for anyone?

Welder, you are welcome to add to this.

Rack ,

Thank You for giving me permission to respond I am grateful . I am okay with the text being shared I wanted them to be posted .

The only issue I have with the text is , Not All Of Them Were Shared , I have them it was my response back to Rack

Again not all of them shared :innocent0

Then Stoveman posted a Meme of a Disney character with the caption of Let It go , Let it go .
I thought I had made some friends , but as soon as I voice an opinion of what happened I am chastised for it .

As I stated before our government makes laws and infringes on a free man for the good of man .
And Rack feels he has to look out for me and my family , he overstepped his pay grade .

I would never treat another human that way , let alone a so-called friend .
Stoveman post they would never apologize for looking out for me and my good .
MDA and our Government feel the same way I am sure .

The hypocrisy with some folks is creative , no big deal until it happens to you .

Rack&Roll · Apr 25, 2018

welder516 said:
Rack ,

Thank You for giving me permission to respond I am grateful . I am okay with the text being shared I wanted them to be posted .

The only issue I have with the text is , Not All Of Them Were Shared , I have them it was my response back to Rack

Again not all of them shared

Then Stoveman posted a Meme of a Disney character with the caption of Let It go , Let it go .
I thought I had made some friends , but as soon as I voice an opinion or what happened I am chastised for it .

As I stated before our government makes laws and infringes on a free man for the good of man .
And Rack feels he has to look out for me and my family , he overstepped his pay grade .

I would never treat another human that way , let alone a so-called friend .
Stoveman post they would never apologize for looking out for me and my good .
MDA and our Government feel the same way I am sure .

The hypocrisy with some folks is creative , no big deal until it happens to you .

Welder,

Six weeks ago, we invited members here to join a Patriot Picket crew that was going down the anti-gun March For Our Lives event downtown so we could conduct informational picketing. We would not take any signs excoriating Democrats--only signs highlighting or celebrating 1st or 2nd Amendment rights.

After you and most others signed on, the estimated number of anti-gun people exploded ten-fold. And the anger level went up, based on news media previews of people who would be coming to Washington.

Based on abusive screaming, sign-grabbing and sign-stomping experienced at the White House in February, we were concerned enough to contact the Maryland Threepers militia group. We asked them to accompany us to on an overwatch mission and they agreed.

And, during the week prior to setting out, we thought it wise to issue a long list of defensive items that folks could consider bringing, including ballistic vests, helmets, protective eyewear, pepper spray, Tasers, and eyewash in case we were attacked with pepper spray. We don't go looking for trouble. But we will not be frightened away from demonstrating for our rights.

We made the decision to travel to DC in caravans and form up well away from the March to enhance our security. As the person responsible for safety of this 30-40 Patriot Picket/Threeper excursion, I made the decision that we would enter and exit the event ONLY AS A GROUP to discourage angry anti-gun folks from isolating us from the others and picking fights.

We needed everyone to hike in as a group, stick together the whole time we were surrounded by the marchers, and then leave as group.

The worst scenario was that one, or some, of our group would get there and decide the atmosphere was too abusive or frightening and want to leave--meaning we would have to split off folks from our security team to escort them out, leaving fewer people to watch over the Patriot Picket members staying put.

This concern was not imaginary. When we arrived and got halfway to our final destination, one of our Patriot Picket members decided he was too fearful to continue and dropped out. At that point, we again confirmed that everyone who continued down to Pennsylvania Avenue would stick it out until we would leave together.

Welder, you signed up early and announced that you would be making a "family day" out of this Patriot Picket event-- that you would bringing your wife and your son. Of the approximately 35 people going, you were the only one who planned this as a "family day". You posted that you thought the Marchers would be "peace-loving" kids.

But I had been attacked by these "peace-loving kids" a few weeks before and I decided to contact you privately to ask you to reconsider bringing your wife and child. Obviously, you had already made plans to spend the day with your family so my request was that all of you take a pass on this event and enjoy a family day elsewhere. I texted my concern to you and ended with "What do you think?"

You never responded to my text, and you did not pick up the phone when I tried to follow up with a call to you to discuss it. All I got was a "Can't talk now" text. I later posted that I was not stopping you from coming to DC, and that the choice was yours.

Instead of texting or phoning me, you went to the event thread and announced that you had been kicked off the team...that you were being blocked.

I did no such thing. I asked you to take a pass on "family day" in what would be a very agitated environment, and then asked you "What do you think".

As the leader of the 35 folks going in and coming out of DC, I put the safety of the group first.

Had the screaming and cursing been too overwhelming for your son and your wife once we were in place, we would have been jammed. I do not apologize for making the call I did based on the experience I had already been though, and knowing you were expecting only "peace-loving kids".

I'm kind of stunned that you objected to me putting the safety of the group above your feelings. I'm sorry, the safety of three dozen folks in our group took priority, and I can't imagine how you saw this as a personal attack on you.

Your claims that "no man has a right to tell me what to do with my family" are true. You were free to bring your family to DC. No one was standing in your way. No one was blocking you. You just claimed you were blocked and stayed home.

More than a month later you are still complaining that this episode was an insult to you and your family, that it was an attack on you as the head of your household, and an attack on your dignity.

As it was, when we exited Pennsylvania Avenue we had people throwing shoulders into us attempting to start something. I can't imagine what would have happened if someone threw a shoulder into you and picked a fight with you right there with your wife next to you, and with your son in his wheelchair.

It was just a request to bypass this one event, and for good reasons. I do not regret making this request. It was a decision made on behalf of group safety, and I ask you to respect that.

willtill · Apr 25, 2018

44man said:
There’s a lotta that going on around here lately.

2a supporters should try and stick together but some believe it’s their way or the highway. And any deviance from their plan is cause for insults and calling other supporters out and attempting to shame them.

Just like our opponents

Bingo !!!

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Rack&Roll · Apr 25, 2018

willtill said:
Bingo !!!

I think you are being needlessly argumentative.

and you say "__________________"

Hint: it's a TRAP!

welder516 · Apr 25, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
Welder,

Six weeks ago, we invited members here to join a Patriot Picket crew that was going down the anti-gun March For Our Lives event downtown so we could conduct informational picketing. We would not take any signs excoriating Democrats--only signs highlighting or celebrating 1st or 2nd Amendment rights.

After you and most others signed on, the estimated number of anti-gun people exploded ten-fold. And the anger level went up, based on news media previews of people who would be coming to Washington.

Based on abusive screaming, sign-grabbing and sign-stomping experienced at the White House in February, we were concerned enough to contact the Maryland Threepers militia group. We asked them to accompany us to on an overwatch mission and they agreed.

And, during the week prior to setting out, we thought it wise to issue a long list of defensive items that folks could consider bringing, including ballistic vests, helmets, protective eyewear, pepper spray, Tasers, and eyewash in case we were attacked with pepper spray. We don't go looking for trouble. But we will not be frightened away from demonstrating for our rights.

We made the decision to travel to DC in caravans and form up well away from the March to enhance our security. As the person responsible for safety of this 30-40 Patriot Picket/Threeper excursion, I made the decision that we would enter and exit the event ONLY AS A GROUP to discourage angry anti-gun folks from isolating us from the others and picking fights.

We needed everyone to hike in as a group, stick together the whole time we were surrounded by the marchers, and then leave as group.

The worst scenario was that one, or some, of our group would get there and decide the atmosphere was too abusive or frightening and want to leave--meaning we would have to split off folks from our security team to escort them out, leaving fewer people to watch over the Patriot Picket members staying put.

This concern was not imaginary. When we arrived and got halfway to our final destination, one of our Patriot Picket members decided he was too fearful to continue and dropped out. At that point, we again confirmed that everyone who continued down to Pennsylvania Avenue would stick it out until we would leave together.

Welder, you signed up early and announced that you would be making a "family day" out of this Patriot Picket event-- that you would bringing your wife and your son. Of the approximately 35 people going, you were the only one who planned this as a "family day". You posted that you thought the Marchers would be "peace-loving" kids.

But I had been attacked by these "peace-loving kids" a few weeks before and I decided to contact you privately to ask you to reconsider bringing your wife and child. Obviously, you had already made plans to spend the day with your family so my request was that all of you take a pass on this event and enjoy a family day elsewhere. I texted my concern to you and ended with "What do you think?"

You never responded to my text, and you did not pick up the phone when I tried to follow up with a call to you to discuss it. All I got was a "Can't talk now" text. I later posted that I was not stopping you from coming to DC, and that the choice was yours.

Instead of texting or phoning me, you went to the event thread and announced that you had been kicked off the team...that you were being blocked.

I did no such thing. I asked you to take a pass on "family day" in what would be a very agitated environment, and then asked you "What do you think".

As the leader of the 35 folks going in and coming out of DC, I put the safety of the group first.

Had the screaming and cursing been too overwhelming for your son and your wife once we were in place, we would have been jammed. I do not apologize for making the call I did based on the experience I had already been though, and knowing you were expecting only "peace-loving kids".

I'm kind of stunned that you objected to me putting the safety of the group above your feelings. I'm sorry, the safety of three dozen folks in our group took priority, and I can't imagine how you saw this as a personal attack on you.

Your claims that "no man has a right to tell me what to do with my family" are true. You were free to bring your family to DC. No one was standing in your way. No one was blocking you. You just claimed you were blocked a stayed home.

More than a month later you are still complaining that this episode was an insult to you and your family, that it was an attack on you as the head of your household, and an attack on your dignity.

As it was, when we exited Pennsylvania Avenue we had people throwing shoulders into us attempting to start something. I can't imagine what would have happened if someone threw a shoulder into you and picked a fight with you right there with your wife next to you, and with your son in his wheelchair.

It was just a request to bypass this one event, and for good reasons. I do not regret making this request. It was a decision made on behalf of group safety, and I ask you to respect that.

Then don't be surprised when our fine Maryland politicians make laws that protect "US" .

I posted the peace loving kids thing as a poke fun at the yutes , it was not serious . We were never afraid as a family , if things got bad i had worked out with my wife to take my son away to a building or museum and i would meet her there .
The fact is you over-hyped the event , my guess is you wanted to dramatize it and sell it .
I am very surprised after what i have done for the PP i would have been treated in such a manner .
But life goes on , i was never given a chance to respond only in bits and pieces . There is some more crap but i will keep that crap behind the scenes for the good of all of us and the other PP members and the other members at MDS .

You can spin it any way you would like but the facts don't bear out what you say .
I wish you the very best in the efforts , i wish the PP members all the best . :thumbsup:

j_h_smith · Apr 25, 2018

Norton has told us to cut it out or he will. Jeff, you do what you want with your life.

I'm done.

willtill · Apr 25, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
I think you are being needlessly argumentative.

and you say "__________________"

Hint: it's a TRAP!

I just hope that we'll all get along at the Pig Roast Jeff.

Remember it's not a P.P. event :innocent0

See you there.

btw... thank you for your activism and heroic efforts. along with the rest of the P.P. whom demonstrated for preserving our rights.

.

welder516 · Apr 25, 2018

I too want to state again that i am proud to have worked with the PP and i am proud to have stood shoulder to shoulder with all . With Rack & Stoveman and the amount of time sunk into the events is more then i could have done . My son loved holding a sign and hanging out with his Dad .
If i have to explain it , you would never understand anyway . So there is no point .

Thank You all for the hours on the bricks :thumbsup:

EL1227 · Apr 25, 2018

As a former project manager ...

This thread has devolved into a caricature of this meme, but it's hard to tell which 'phase' we are in.

A+Little+Humor:+Six+Phases+of+a+Project.jpg

Given our recent defeat at the hands of the gun-grabbing DemocRATS in the MD GA and our two-faced Governor, I understand the frustrations. but ...

If Washington's troops had all abandoned him after defeats, we wouldn't have had a Constitution, let alone a Bill of Rights with 2A. We should lick our wounds and be prepared to fight another day, because another day and many other fights are certain. Casting aspersions on each other or our PP leaders is counter-productive and I am sure that the trolls who monitor MDS are having a chuckle at our expense.

Gawd forbid that the national fight for our rights 'goes hot', because the PRofMD will be at the frontlines and we will need to have patriots we can depend on.

Schipperke · Apr 25, 2018

Bob A said:
I believe I was one of the untrained, unhealthy minions who went to Harrisburg.

I was not recruited, I volunteered. I was at no greater risk than those with whom I stood. I was pleased to be able to stand up for my beliefs at that time, and afterward.

I wasn't aware that I needed to be vetted in order to face down the masked cowards who refuse to accept the rule of law, and the result of a fair election.

I'm pretty tired of having to read the negative comments about my actions, as well as the negative comments about anything that some of us try to do to educate, inform, and, yes, face down those who would replace my rights with their "needs". After several months of this, ending with the smallest of Pyrrhic victories in the GA, the chronic chorus of "We told you so" is more than I care to tolerate.

So, thanks to those who helped, and sucks to those who stand back and criticize. You all know who you are.

For those who do neither, I wish you luck. You'll need it in years to come.

What is that recent MSI lawsuit all about? Oh right 1A, they're branching out. Sorry words on a forum tire you, I guess that is another peril for some I never anticipated just expressing facts and/or opinion. When there are threads questioning the efficacy of demonstrations, some immediately come out of the box, defeatist, morale killer. The vanity at times is amazing here, because such a thread as recently posted pointed to all kinds of demonstrators and groups. I don't think Hickcock 45 had you in his sights when he was extolling his opinions that 2A demonstrations may actually be counter productive. It's conjecture base on results. You may not like reading it but I've seen no one tell you to stop picketing, or has the power to make you stop. Demonstrations of large size backed by or perceived to be backed by majority public opinion may have legs, Mr. Hogg as an example. States did start ramping up gun control, based on politicians perception of majority views.

Two hundred and twenty as reported by the threepers head count, just really moves no needle, and may only strengthen politicians opinion, why yes, the super majority does hate guns. H45 again brought this point up that no demonstration vs a minuscule one is probably more preferable. Do you fear reading the oppositions critique of gun rallies? Some are priceless, and honestly some of their ridicule I can't find arguable. When something is a flop in the political needle moving sense, don't try peeing on a leg and telling them it's raining. As 45 commented, they are nice to go to, but quit fooling yourself anything of that size is meaningful politically or changing minds. The changing minds argument that after seeing these events drive some to choose gun control is actually more plausible. People on the fence tend to gravitate with a side they believe is winning. Not to mention the unflattering filter of the left wing press to characterize everyone there as some kind of right wing militia person. It was like night and day reading the after of that event on the threepers board vs here. They were strong enough to wax realistic of the political effect wasn't there. I believe they expected at least twice as many or more. It becomes downright delusional here at times, "We probably kept the Governor from leaving his home". Is that actually entering peoples minds as real?

Have the Mom's educated anyone here to their position? People that do not own firearms take it they have no dog in the fight. They'll nod, smile, agree when you wax all pedantic on them, then next weekend run in to the Mom's and repeat. Then finally as people that don't own guns, buy the mantra they are safer if you don't have them either. Is defeatism the ability to count votes and read multiple instances citing our Governor embraced these bills? I took Larry at his word, and somehow people label that defeatism? For goodness sake, i thought people would wake up when near every R delegate voted for 1302. They changed their votes because some win by less than 100 votes in their Republican majority district. Honestly this stuff isn't hard to figure out.

So get on with what you enjoy and stop worrying about we that feel constant sign waving has no efficacy against a Super Majority.

Czechnologist · Apr 25, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
First up, what's up with the phrase "questioning the sanity"? Sanity?

The implication is that others are less capable than you, and lack the awareness powers you have. You had never met me, didn't work with me, didn't socialize with me and yet your words suggested I badly needed your higher level of reasoning and would benefit from how "in touch with reality" you are.

Disagree. Sorry. Pretty rude don't you think to suggest you are sane and think clearly, but others can't? Do you do this in the rest of your life?

As for "you're a jerk", please show all of us that post.

"Minions"? Why this word? What's this about?

As for offering assistance, you only ever offered critical comments. I'm probably older than you, and I have a good history of managing my life and affairs. I have done fine without your "assistance", but thanks. The Harrisburg thread was an invitation thread to any and all who wished to make up THEIR OWN MINDS about attending. Grownups talking to other grownups about an outing with LOTS of planning. Liberty and freedom, don't you think?

The Pig Roast was an extremely happy occasion from start to finish, and the posts and photos bear that out.

With smiles on faces there might have been some ribbing, but a growling staredown on both our parts where I look at you and say "BITCH!!"..I don't think so. I took this picture below IN THE MIDDLE of my socializing with you. You seem angry! Wait, no you don't....you seem as happy to be in that conversation as I am capturing a nice memory with my camera. I will let the picture speak for itself.

Please go back to post #60 and read CAREFULLY. I posted a private text that Welder wanted posted. I continue to be puzzled this anger for helping someone with something they want to have posted...

Obviously, you're a little confused about the facts but, in the interests of harmony and self-preservation, I'll forego a detailed response on MDS and offer to discuss things with you offline, one-on-one, whenever my work schedule permits.

Rack&Roll · Apr 25, 2018

Zzzzz_man said:
Obviously, you're a little confused about the facts but, in the interests of harmony and self-preservation, I'll forego a detailed response on MDS and offer to discuss things with you offline, one-on-one, whenever my work schedule permits.

No, actually I welcome your “detailed response” right here in the open.

That’s because I didn’t toss an angry epithet at you at last year’s Pig Roast. I took this picture of you at the party right at the moment in question and it shows exactly what I remember: a laugh-out/loud good time.

I’m not “confused” about anything. I just reject this story you are telling. All smiles below is what I see, including your cheerful wife next to you and an amused Mrs. Schipperke next to her.

This picture is worth a thousand words don’t you think?

Czechnologist · Apr 25, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
No, actually I welcome your “detailed response” right here in the open.

That’s because I didn’t toss an angry epithet at you at last year’s Pig Roast. I took this picture of you at the party right at the moment in question and it shows exactly what I remember: a laugh-out/loud good time.

I’m not “confused” about anything. I just reject this story you are telling. All smiles below is what I see, including your cheerful wife next to you and an amused Mrs. Schipperke next to her.

This picture is worth a thousand words don’t you think?

No, not in this instance because you're disingenuously trying to use photographic 'evidence' to back-up a false contention.

Shortly after arriving, I went inside to get a Margarita for my wife and I said hello to you at the bar. You looked at the nametag with my MDS user name (because you obviously didn't know who I was) and said, "Oh, you're a bitch..." and I laughed when you said it. I went back outside without saying another word to you because, frankly, it was neither the time nor the place to start some shit. I was there to have a good time and wasn't about to let it be spoiled by someone as petulant as yourself.

Nope, the photo you're using as 'evidence' wasn't taken until several hours after the incident I described in the previous paragraph and does nothing to back-up your denial. I was talking to Nztg8r and Mr. & Mrs. 'Smart Girl' when that pic was taken and yes, I had a very enjoyable time at the Pig Roast in spite of your toxic BS.

Look, despite what you may think, I have no reason to make-up a story like this. None. In fact, I've had nearly nothing to say to you on this group for the past two years, other than to indirectly mock the way you insult anyone with an opinion different from your own...and that's the real issue I have. You're welcome to insult, berate, belittle and bamboozle me all you want but when I see you doing it to others I respect and consider friends, you shouldn't expect me to sit back and let you get away with it.

What else would you like me to clarify for you?

Don H · Apr 25, 2018

Rack&Roll said:
Now, as for your pension. I know of no retired person whose pension is in jeopardy because they engage in legally sanctioned political activity, such as demonstrations regarding the 1st and 2nd Amendment.

Retired people with pensions, unfortunately, are regularly arrested for DWI, trespassing, drunk & disorderly, shoplifting, and maybe even "impeding on a sidewalk" as I was. Please quote me the line that says your pension is at risk because you are arrested in the course of your life. Seriously, I have never seen or heard of such a pension disqualifier and would like to see the language

ERS of Baltimore County vs Brown
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/md-court-of-special-appeals/1476585.html

"Honorable and Faithful service". I know when I retired the Chief had to certify that I had performed "Honorable and Faithful service. Serious criminal violations could and did disqualify the complainant in this case.

j_h_smith · Apr 25, 2018

Don H said:
ERS of Baltimore County vs Brown
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/md-court-of-special-appeals/1476585.html

"Honorable and Faithful service". I know when I retired the Chief had to certify that I had performed "Honorable and Faithful service. Serious criminal violations could and did disqualify the complainant in this case.

So, that's me and this case. I wonder how many more there are out there?

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