95% AR Lower

Straightbolt · May 10, 2016

Anyone here done any business with this outfit ?
Just wonder about quality etc.

http://www.americanspiritarms.com/lower-receivers/asa-m4-ar-15-95-percent-lower-receiver/

Alphabrew · May 10, 2016

Looks like a grossly overpriced 80% lower is pictured. Not sure I understand the point of a 95% lower?

tkd4life · May 10, 2016

I personally would never do business with a company that is so ignorant on what they are selling. I was really curious why someone would sell a 95% lower when the standard is an 80%, then I look and these guys are selling lowers that are less finished than other companies selling them as 80%. I would not say that their product is in a 95% finished form. There are holes to drill and a lot of material to drill/mill out for the trigger. If you are looking for an 80% I personally would look elsewhere.

Shazam · May 10, 2016

The picture looks like an "80%" lower that they are calling 95% to make it sound better.

DutchV · May 10, 2016

$110 for an anodized paperweight? Shop around, you can do better.

Boss94 · May 10, 2016

I never understood it but they call a 80% lower with the pocket for the upper to be closed a 95% lower ????

Hawkeye · May 11, 2016

tkd4life said:
I would not say that their product is in a 95% finished form.

It had better not be. If more than 80% of the machining operations are completed, then it is a firearm and requires being transferred as such. If it were more than 80% complete, they'd be breaking the law selling it direct to customers as a non-firearm.

DutchV · May 12, 2016

Hawkeye said:
It had better not be. If more than 80% of the machining operations are completed, then it is a firearm and requires being transferred as such. If it were more than 80% complete, they'd be breaking the law selling it direct to customers as a non-firearm.

The 80% label is marketing, not a rule from the ATF. So 95% is also just a made-up marketing term. All ATF does is make their determination and send a letter saying "this isn't a firearm". But you're correct that if a lower has one too many machining operations performed, it's considered a firearm rather than a paperweight. Currently I believe that the forbidden features are fire control cavity, holes for the safety, hammer pin and trigger pin, or any marks or dimples to locate those holes.

Nicer 80% lowers will have the take-down recess already machined. The rest of the work is less critical and sort of hard to screw up.

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