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  • jrhzn

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    Aug 17, 2017
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    JRHZN --- I think you better go buy the standard BGC, you'll have more friends here because anything different is a sin. I will say, that that dust cover seems a bit gimmicky and cheap, but I can't find anything negative on it... Shoot away!!!

    LOL - It doesn't take a regular BCG. The Carrier is one piece machined carrier and oprod.
     

    sergeysakharov47

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    Jul 20, 2019
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    $300 BCG with your $500 PSA Freedom build? What am I missing? The $500 PSA rifle was the one you were suggesting in the $1000 AR-15 thread, right?

    I am not an AR guy, for shatz and gaggles, I typed in “most expensive bcg ever” and that is what came up.

    You see, my comrades and I would never ask these kind of questions, our AKs BCGs are what they are and are good at what they are.

    Don't get me wrong, there are those who buy this kind of AK bling for $2500 just like there are those who spend $300 on a BCG.

    https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/rifle-dynamics-nato-ak-in-5-56/
     

    jrhzn

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    Aug 17, 2017
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    I am not an AR guy, for shatz and gaggles, I typed in “most expensive bcg ever” and that is what came up.

    You see, my comrades and I would never ask these kind of questions, our AKs BCGs are what they are and are good at what they are.

    Don't get me wrong, there are those who buy this kind of AK bling for $2500 just like there are those who spend $300 on a BCG.

    https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/rifle-dynamics-nato-ak-in-5-56/

    $2500 for that is insane. I had hard time shelling out $999 on that snazy colt I talked myself into buying last night. But $2500 for a rifle that originally cost $1000 is insane. I guess you AK guys are hardcore :)
     

    sergeysakharov47

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    $2500 for that is insane. I had hard time shelling out $999 on that snazy colt I talked myself into buying last night. But $2500 for a rifle that originally cost $1000 is insane. I guess you AK guys are hardcore :)

    I wouldn’t say hardcore. If someone showed up with that at my range then i’d try to sell him / her mine for a pretty penny.

    Its like this, AK owners are like diesel owners loud and obnoxious but will run a million miles. AR owners are like regular gas owners arguing about which one is better, toyota, honda, mercedes,, and then there is the colt cult, they are like democrats in California driving their identical teslas and hating everyone who does not agree with them that there teslas are the best.
     

    jrhzn

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    I wouldn’t say hardcore. If someone showed up with that at my range then i’d try to sell him / her mine for a pretty penny.

    Its like this, AK owners are like diesel owners loud and obnoxious but will run a million miles. AR owners are like regular gas owners arguing about which one is better, toyota, honda, mercedes,, and then there is the colt cult, they are like democrats in California driving their identical teslas and hating everyone who does not agree with them that there teslas are the best.

    Thats funny!
     

    ted76

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    Jan 20, 2013
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    Are Toolcraft Bolt carriers marked in any way? What marking do other manufactures use?
    I have a variety of bolts that I have bought from PSA, Primary Arms, Midway and Brownells, that I would like to know the original manufacturer of.
     

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    jimbobborg

    Oddball caliber fan
    Aug 2, 2010
    17,120
    Northern Virginia
    If you paid $300 for a BCG, you paid too much


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    Back when Jug Ears was president, I picked up a lightweight BCG from Faxon for about that much. This one is $350ish. https://www.brownells.com/rifle-par...=Avantlink&utm_content=NA&utm_campaign=Itwine JP makes some that cost even more. https://www.brownells.com/rifle-par...bolt-sku452000190-81353-163934.aspx?rrec=true For a fast race gun with minimal weight and recovery, my Faxon works pretty well.
     

    clandestine

    AR-15 Savant
    Oct 13, 2008
    37,031
    Elkton, MD
    Are Toolcraft Bolt carriers marked in any way? What marking do other manufactures use?
    I have a variety of bolts that I have bought from PSA, Primary Arms, Midway and Brownells, that I would like to know the original manufacturer of.

    Some were marked. They had a large billboard on the port side of the carrier. Most are not marked that I have seen.
     

    grimnar15

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 21, 2019
    1,645
    I bought the SOLGW BCG and for sale at $109 at Primary Arms that is a screaming deal.

    Description

    Sons of Liberty Gun Works Bolt Carrier Group HPT/MPI

    Bolt:

    Precision machined from Carpenter Technology No. 158 alloy,
    Heat treated per mil-spec,
    Shot peened per ASTM B851/SAE AMS2430S,
    Vibratory tumbled
    Individual high pressure/proof (HP)
    Full Auto test fired as an assembly
    Individual magnetic particle inspection ASTM E1444/E1444M (MP)
    Markings deep laser engraved (SP=Shot Peened, HP=High Pressure Tested, MP=Magnetic Particle Inspection.)

    Extractor:

    Precision machined from 4340 tool steel alloy per SAE AMS6415T/AMS6484D (vs 4140),
    Heat treated
    Shot peen per ASTM B851/SAE AMS2430S.
    Extractor Retaining Pin:

    Precision machined and ground S7 Tool Steel
    Heat treated per ASTM A681-08
    Shot peened per mil-spec print
    Manganese phosphate

    Extractor Spring:

    Tactical Springs/Sprinco 5 coil, ASTM Grade A401 Chrome Silicon wire stock
    Heat treated
    Stress relieved, Molybdenum-Disulfide infused
    Cryogenic processed (all post winding)
    Mil-spec black insert/synthetic elastomer extractor buffer (nitrile-butadiene, shore hardness 80+/-5 durometer per MIL-PRF-6855)

    Ejector:

    S7 Tool Steel
    Heat treated per ASTM A681-08
    Shot peened per Mil-Spec
    Manganese phosphate
    Ejector Spring:

    Heat treated
    Mil Spec
    Gas Rings:

    Standard stainless steel per Mil-Spec X3

    Carrier:

    Machined from AISI 8620 aircraft qualty alloy per ASTM A108/A322-13
    Full auto profile
    Heat treated
    Carburized/strain relieved, hard chrome bore
    Precision ground gas key interface
    Sons of Liberty Battle Flag logo deep laser engraved
    Manganese phosphate

    Gas Key:

    Machined from 4130 chromoly steel alloy per ASTM A108/A322-13
    Heat treated, hard chrome internal
    Manganese phosphate
    Permatex sealed
    Grade 8 hex screws torqued and staked all per mil-spec

    Cam Pin:

    Precision machined 4340 chromoly steel alloy per SAE AMS6415T/AMS6484D
    Heat treated/processed per mil-spec
    Manganese phosphate
    Solid film lubricant applied and cured per mil-spec

    Firing Pin:

    Precision machined 8640 steel alloy
    Heat treated/processed per mil-spec
    Hard chrome plate
    Firing Pin Retaining Pin:

    Precision machined from 1038 carbon steel
    Heat treated/processed per mil-spec
    Manganese phosphate
     

    clandestine

    AR-15 Savant
    Oct 13, 2008
    37,031
    Elkton, MD
    I bought the SOLGW BCG and for sale at $109 at Primary Arms that is a screaming deal.

    Description

    Sons of Liberty Gun Works Bolt Carrier Group HPT/MPI

    Bolt:

    Precision machined from Carpenter Technology No. 158 alloy,
    Heat treated per mil-spec,
    Shot peened per ASTM B851/SAE AMS2430S,
    Vibratory tumbled
    Individual high pressure/proof (HP)
    Full Auto test fired as an assembly
    Individual magnetic particle inspection ASTM E1444/E1444M (MP)
    Markings deep laser engraved (SP=Shot Peened, HP=High Pressure Tested, MP=Magnetic Particle Inspection.)

    Extractor:

    Precision machined from 4340 tool steel alloy per SAE AMS6415T/AMS6484D (vs 4140),
    Heat treated
    Shot peen per ASTM B851/SAE AMS2430S.
    Extractor Retaining Pin:

    Precision machined and ground S7 Tool Steel
    Heat treated per ASTM A681-08
    Shot peened per mil-spec print
    Manganese phosphate

    Extractor Spring:

    Tactical Springs/Sprinco 5 coil, ASTM Grade A401 Chrome Silicon wire stock
    Heat treated
    Stress relieved, Molybdenum-Disulfide infused
    Cryogenic processed (all post winding)
    Mil-spec black insert/synthetic elastomer extractor buffer (nitrile-butadiene, shore hardness 80+/-5 durometer per MIL-PRF-6855)

    Ejector:

    S7 Tool Steel
    Heat treated per ASTM A681-08
    Shot peened per Mil-Spec
    Manganese phosphate
    Ejector Spring:

    Heat treated
    Mil Spec
    Gas Rings:

    Standard stainless steel per Mil-Spec X3

    Carrier:

    Machined from AISI 8620 aircraft qualty alloy per ASTM A108/A322-13
    Full auto profile
    Heat treated
    Carburized/strain relieved, hard chrome bore
    Precision ground gas key interface
    Sons of Liberty Battle Flag logo deep laser engraved
    Manganese phosphate

    Gas Key:

    Machined from 4130 chromoly steel alloy per ASTM A108/A322-13
    Heat treated, hard chrome internal
    Manganese phosphate
    Permatex sealed
    Grade 8 hex screws torqued and staked all per mil-spec

    Cam Pin:

    Precision machined 4340 chromoly steel alloy per SAE AMS6415T/AMS6484D
    Heat treated/processed per mil-spec
    Manganese phosphate
    Solid film lubricant applied and cured per mil-spec

    Firing Pin:

    Precision machined 8640 steel alloy
    Heat treated/processed per mil-spec
    Hard chrome plate
    Firing Pin Retaining Pin:

    Precision machined from 1038 carbon steel
    Heat treated/processed per mil-spec
    Manganese phosphate

    Lots of companies say they check those points you mentioned, but few are very consistent BCG's when you inspect, test, and gauge them. SOLGW are extremely consistent at this time.

    Full disclosure: I am friends with the owners and do small amounts of business with them.
     

    omegared24

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 23, 2011
    4,747
    Ijamsville, MD
    I bought the SOLGW BCG and for sale at $109 at Primary Arms that is a screaming deal.

    Description

    Sons of Liberty Gun Works Bolt Carrier Group HPT/MPI

    Bolt:

    Precision machined from Carpenter Technology No. 158 alloy,
    Heat treated per mil-spec,
    Shot peened per ASTM B851/SAE AMS2430S,
    Vibratory tumbled
    Individual high pressure/proof (HP)
    Full Auto test fired as an assembly
    Individual magnetic particle inspection ASTM E1444/E1444M (MP)
    Markings deep laser engraved (SP=Shot Peened, HP=High Pressure Tested, MP=Magnetic Particle Inspection.)

    Extractor:

    Precision machined from 4340 tool steel alloy per SAE AMS6415T/AMS6484D (vs 4140),
    Heat treated
    Shot peen per ASTM B851/SAE AMS2430S.
    Extractor Retaining Pin:

    Precision machined and ground S7 Tool Steel
    Heat treated per ASTM A681-08
    Shot peened per mil-spec print
    Manganese phosphate

    Extractor Spring:

    Tactical Springs/Sprinco 5 coil, ASTM Grade A401 Chrome Silicon wire stock
    Heat treated
    Stress relieved, Molybdenum-Disulfide infused
    Cryogenic processed (all post winding)
    Mil-spec black insert/synthetic elastomer extractor buffer (nitrile-butadiene, shore hardness 80+/-5 durometer per MIL-PRF-6855)

    Ejector:

    S7 Tool Steel
    Heat treated per ASTM A681-08
    Shot peened per Mil-Spec
    Manganese phosphate
    Ejector Spring:

    Heat treated
    Mil Spec
    Gas Rings:

    Standard stainless steel per Mil-Spec X3

    Carrier:

    Machined from AISI 8620 aircraft qualty alloy per ASTM A108/A322-13
    Full auto profile
    Heat treated
    Carburized/strain relieved, hard chrome bore
    Precision ground gas key interface
    Sons of Liberty Battle Flag logo deep laser engraved
    Manganese phosphate

    Gas Key:

    Machined from 4130 chromoly steel alloy per ASTM A108/A322-13
    Heat treated, hard chrome internal
    Manganese phosphate
    Permatex sealed
    Grade 8 hex screws torqued and staked all per mil-spec

    Cam Pin:

    Precision machined 4340 chromoly steel alloy per SAE AMS6415T/AMS6484D
    Heat treated/processed per mil-spec
    Manganese phosphate
    Solid film lubricant applied and cured per mil-spec

    Firing Pin:

    Precision machined 8640 steel alloy
    Heat treated/processed per mil-spec
    Hard chrome plate
    Firing Pin Retaining Pin:

    Precision machined from 1038 carbon steel
    Heat treated/processed per mil-spec
    Manganese phosphate

    Picked up 2 yesterday.
     

    grimnar15

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 21, 2019
    1,645
    Lots of companies say they check those points you mentioned, but few are very consistent BCG's when you inspect, test, and gauge them. SOLGW are extremely consistent at this time.

    Full disclosure: I am friends with the owners and do small amounts of business with them.

    At $109.99 I cant find Better value.
     

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