FIREClean advanced gun lube

sgatz · Dec 18, 2014

My buddy and I use it, and it is great stuff...easy to clean up.

Traveler · Dec 19, 2014

Motor oil is not a good rust preventative according to these tests.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/lid=...nic__Knowing_the_Limits_of_Rust_Preventatives

http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html

http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html

clandestine · Dec 19, 2014

That is accurate. That's why I suggest people that do use it apply an external protectant, which can be safely used along with motor oil.

G96, Eezox, Barricade, and so on. Heck even WD40 is a good protectant, but it can lead to issues if you let it get into internals over time.

rob-cubed · Dec 19, 2014

It's been posted many times before, but for the uninitiated here is a great writeup on lubes:
http://www.grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html

Every year it seems like someone comes out with a whiz-bang new CLP which competes with printer ink in cost per ounce. But the chemical/mechanical principles of cleaning, lubing, and rust protection have been around forever. There's nothing new besides new marketing and a formulation that can be patented as the next, perfect all-in-one.

My take is if you use one product for all three, then you aren't doing any of them adequately. And if you use one expensive product for all three you might be buying snake oil. There is a place for all-in-one--it's in my range bag--but if I have the luxury of a separate solvent for cleaning, a grease & oil for lube, and a good rust-protective as a wipedown then I'll go with the 3-4 cheapest products that meet those requirements.

inkd · Dec 19, 2014

rob-cubed said:
It's been posted many times before, but for the uninitiated here is a great writeup on lubes:
http://www.grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html

Every year it seems like someone comes out with a whiz-bang new CLP which competes with printer ink in cost per ounce. But the chemical/mechanical principles of cleaning, lubing, and rust protection have been around forever. There's nothing new besides new marketing and a formulation that can be patented as the next, perfect all-in-one.

My take is if you use one product for all three, then you aren't doing any of them adequately. And if you use one expensive product for all three you might be buying snake oil. There is a place for all-in-one--it's in my range bag--but if I have the luxury of a separate solvent for cleaning, a grease & oil for lube, and a good rust-protective as a wipedown then I'll go with the 3-4 cheapest products that meet those requirements.

I found a place online that sells the oil and grease he recommends in a smaller quantity. I bought some to try out and so far I like it just fine.

I also mixed up a bottle of the ATF/STP concoction he mentioned in the article as well and tried it on a AR and used it in a 2 gun match. I was real happy with it. It stayed where it should, didn't burn off and ran just fine for me.

I'm going to shoot a lot more ammo through it and just oil it up to get it nice and gunked up and see how it cleans up versus the gun I am running the oil and grease combination he recommended.

Glock 'n Roll · Dec 21, 2014

I use FIREclean on all my firearms. Excellent product. Highly recommend.

Captnstabn · Dec 21, 2014

DaemonAssassin said:
I can get it a lot cheaper than that... I have 6 bottles coming to me, so I won't run out for a while. I think the bottles I have coming to me are the 4oz ones, need to double check...

Do tell....

DaemonAssassin · Dec 21, 2014

Captnstabn said:
Do tell....

Brownell's. My job. Those are your clues.

Captnstabn · Dec 21, 2014

DaemonAssassin said:
Brownell's. My job. Those are your clues.

Roger. Didn't realize is was a magical secret. It's still 12.50 with a c&r discount, but not in stock.

DaemonAssassin · Dec 21, 2014

Captnstabn said:
Roger. Didn't realize is was a magical secret. It's still 12.50 with a c&r discount, but not in stock.

It is all good. If they ever get it in stock again, I'll be getting some for a buddy of mine.

Wayne1one · Dec 26, 2014

Larry Vickers has a new video out on FIREClean..

AJRB · Dec 27, 2014

I did a degrease job on all parts that had froglube on them a while back and went to fireclean, and am sure glad I did.

I still have the same bottle I bought almost a year ago, half full actually, it goes a long way.

wreckdiver · Dec 27, 2014

I've tried just about every lube and CLP out there. Might as well give this a try. Any local IP's carry Fireclean?

Traveler · Dec 27, 2014

This looks like it has the same issue as Frog Lube. Aside from a carb cleaner strip down you can't switch products in a pinch. Is that correct Clandestine?

clandestine · Dec 27, 2014

Traveler said:
This looks like it has the same issue as Frog Lube. Aside from a carb cleaner strip down you can't switch products in a pinch. Is that correct Clandestine?

That's what I'm still testing (compatibility with other lubes). I also do not adhere to the light coat of oil mantra. Unless were talking about a grease, no lubricant for a gun should require a delicate application. The degreasing part is also something I don't like either.

I respect Mr Vickers tremendously, but not 2 weeks ago he posts a video about how too much lube won't cause a problem, now he is saying how a measured application of a lube is necessary. It screams of doublespeak IMO. I know he is an honorable man, but I strongly disagree with his discussion on lubes.

Mr Vickers used to be a Miltec proponent too, those write-ups were removed from his website though.

DaemonAssassin · Dec 27, 2014

wreckdiver said:
I've tried just about every lube and CLP out there. Might as well give this a try. Any local IP's carry Fireclean?

I picked up my first bottle from the guys at Engage.

DaemonAssassin · Dec 27, 2014

clandestine said:
Mr Vickers used to be a Miltec proponent too, those write-ups were removed from his website though.

Did the hinges on his front door rust up overnight, because his wife couldn't find the WD-40? :lol2:

Seriously though. Every fanboy of Miltec eventually walks away from it, because they finally saw the light. I still get sh!t from guys that remember my escapades with Miltec.

Minuteman · Dec 27, 2014

Just received my first bottle the other day. Looking forward to using it and see for myself.

clandestine · Dec 27, 2014

DaemonAssassin said:
Did the hinges on his front door rust up overnight, because his wife couldn't find the WD-40?

Seriously though. Every fanboy of Miltec eventually walks away from it, because they finally saw the light. I still get sh!t from guys that remember my escapades with Miltec.

You used Miltec? I don't remember such a thing!

DaemonAssassin · Dec 27, 2014

clandestine said:
You used Miltec? I don't remember such a thing!

I like selective memory disorder too! It makes my day very interesting.

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