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Anyone know if you can use pistol caliber carbine on the pistol range at Hap Baker? I have a 9mm carbine and a new pistol to try out and it would be convenient to just setup on the one range.
Anyone know if you can use pistol caliber carbine on the pistol range at Hap Baker? I have a 9mm carbine and a new pistol to try out and it would be convenient to just setup on the one range.
Bumping this because there is a new crew of folks running Hap in recent years. I assume the rule is still the same, but do any folks have recent experience with PCCs at Hap Baker to confirm/refute the above information?
I was there last week and had this precise convo with an RO. Anything with a stock must be shot at the rifle range. I personally don't see the point of shooting a carbine at the pistol range anyway. If you can hit it at 25yds, you can hit it at 9-17yds. Who sights a scope, iron sights or red dot on a carbine under 25yds?
Thanks for your input. My reason for asking relates to young/inexperienced shooters who would appreciate seeing the target a bit closer than 25 yards the first time handling a PCC.
I was there last week and had this precise convo with an RO. Anything with a stock must be shot at the rifle range. I personally don't see the point of shooting a carbine at the pistol range anyway. If you can hit it at 25yds, you can hit it at 9-17yds. Who sights a scope, iron sights or red dot on a carbine under 25yds?
I was shooting my PCC at the rifle range the week before*
I did not realize that's what you meant by "new crew", apologies for the misunderstanding.
Still, the bench may be the best place for inexperienced shooters. The 25yd targets feels a lot closer than 75ft, with shoot-n-c targets, or a 1-4x optic, it may work.
Well in the morning on the weekend if the weather is nice, the place is always packed. And most people rotate out after the third ceasefire. It's a smaller range that serves a large community, so I see what you're saying. There are two prone lanes at the rifle range that are only for 100 and 200yds. They are usually free. Otherwise the wait is the wait. The pistol range has about 4ft between baffles. It's bigger than most indoor ranges, but still has its limitations. The pistol range is rarely full. Drawing from the hip or use of Holsters is not allowedRight but could help free up some spots for someone who wants to bullseye shoot their rifle at 100 yards or whatever.
Is the pistol range there lanes or is there freedom of movement, drawing, etc?
I go to a public indoor range up my way a few times a year but other than that, I shoot on private land. Im highly ignorant to most public ranges
I was referring to the newer folks running the place. They may have been there for the last few years, but I've not heard great things about them said on this forum, and was curious if there was different and/or inconsistent enforcement of the rule. The gentleman who first replied to the OP was the long time lead RSO at Hap. The newer folks might have operated differently.
As for the young kids and their first time on the carbine, they've shot scoped .22s from the bench, but it's time to learn irons and how to shoot standing. I would have liked to let them punch a few at 12-15 yards before going to 25 and beyond, but it's certainly not a deal breaker.
People who shoot legal long guns in Steel Challenge (PCCO, PCCI, RFRO, and RFRI) usually sight in at around 17-18 yards, same as you do for the pistol divisions. Not so for the same divisions in USPSA because your longest shot might be longer than the 35 yards of SC. In my case I have 2 complete uppers to my PCC. The SC rifle upper has a short Taccom shrouded barrel, 5.5" of threaded barrel, and an 11" alloy shroud pinned to it. It gives the ultimate LW with the weight off the barrel to shorten transition times, which is more important in SC. My USPSA upper is a full length Taccom barrel, .575" profile for its full length with a carbon fiber tensioned wrapped shroud with a threaded barrel end. Its only 20 oz. but it allows a muzzle brake and it has no alignment pin so you align the barrel into the upper after you install the brake. This is because USPSA needs rapid follow-up shots, double taps, and more distance accuracy. So rather than make a compromise rifle I can max both out. Its tuned to use the same bolt, spring, and buffer in both setups although I can swap out the buffer and spring if needed. I tend to sight it in at whatever distance I need to still make clean close quarters shots that don't affect my long range accuracy.I was there last week and had this precise convo with an RO. Anything with a stock must be shot at the rifle range. I personally don't see the point of shooting a carbine at the pistol range anyway. If you can hit it at 25yds, you can hit it at 9-17yds. Who sights a scope, iron sights or red dot on a carbine under 25yds?
I was shooting my PCC at the rifle range the week before*