Wrenn PI Granted (DC Shall Issue)

TTMD · Sep 1, 2015

Schipperke said:
They are marinating the denial letters in Everclear so we can all burn them together.

I'm actually not even sure the 90 days applies right now with the appeal.

redeemed.man · Sep 1, 2015

TTMD said:
I'm actually not even sure the 90 days applies right now with the appeal.

It should certainly apply to someone applying under the DC good cause (G&S) scheme. That party of the law was written by DC and is still in place.

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

TTMD · Sep 1, 2015

boundlessdyad said:
It should certainly apply to someone applying under the DC good cause (G&S) scheme.

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

What about applications submitted during the PI & w/ g&s of "self defense & all legal purposes."

redeemed.man · Sep 1, 2015

TTMD said:
What about applications submitted during the PI & w/ g&s of "self defense & all legal purposes."

I am hearing they are being denied.

Business owner G&S is now tougher than MD because they are specifically asking for cash transactions.

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

JMintzer · Sep 1, 2015

GTOGUNNER said:
I sent Sargent Hall an email yesterday advising him that I was amending my app to include a G and S reason.

They'll tack on an additional 90 days due to your request...

SCDoGo · Sep 2, 2015

TTMD said:
What about applications submitted during the PI & w/ g&s of "self defense & all legal purposes."

It would make sense that they would be denied within the 90 day period, as the reasoning doesn't fit within the district's G&S scheme, as currently allowed by the circuit. The no given reason folks will likely face the same, though I could see them holding the apps a la MD 365 under the premise that a win for them means they can deny at that time, but a win for us would mean people's court-acknowledged rights were denied, opening a new can of worms.

IANAL, but I do wonder what the recourse would be for someone denied for having no G&S if the circuit court rules against DC. Would they need to reapply (renew training, new app fees, new bg check), or would their denied app be opened back up for reconsideration (ideally on an expedited basis).

swinokur · Sep 2, 2015

Perhaps DC will do as MD did, and just hold the apps until the appeal is decided. It would benefit both sides. DC doesn't have to process more apps, and the applicants aren't out more money.

Good question.

Schipperke · Sep 2, 2015

swinokur said:
Perhaps DC will do as MD did, and just hold the apps until the appeal is decided. It would benefit both sides. DC doesn't have to process more apps, and the applicants aren't out more money.

Good question.

Exactly the reason I expect denial. If lightning strikes and Gura pulls a rabbit out of his a$$ and prevails, why wouldn't DC just not want to put denied applicants with bad timing due to squirrels dancing in their heads, through the pain again? Get some extra coin plus parking and speed camera fines too.

swinokur · Sep 2, 2015

Definitely a possibility. But it might also mean less work for the FRS when they can go through the list of applicants that were denied simply because of no G&S and issue a permit.

But knowing DC, they'll probably opt for the denial and make you reapply.

That's why I'm waiting to see how this plays out. i have taken my DC law class and have all my paperwork ready to go. All I need is a favorable ruling and for DC to throw in the towel.

Probably wishful thinking but I'm a realist.

Schipperke · Sep 2, 2015

swinokur said:
Definitely a possibility. But it might also mean less work for the FRS when they can go through the list of applicants that were denied simply because of no G&S and issue a permit.

But knowing DC, they'll probably opt for the denial and make you reapply.

That's why I'm waiting to see how this plays out. i have taken my DC law class and have all my paperwork ready to go. All I need is a favorable ruling and for DC to throw in the towel.

Probably wishful thinking but I'm a realist.

Your squirrel vaccine is up to date. I'll be getting my booster any day.

esqappellate · Sep 2, 2015

argument Nov 20 2015

swinokur · Sep 2, 2015

Esq-what is an average deliberation time for the DC Circuit?

esqappellate · Sep 2, 2015

swinokur said:
Esq-what is an average deliberation time for the DC Circuit?

Oh 3-6 months, depending on the case, the panel and whether there is a dissent. They are pretty fast

swinokur · Sep 2, 2015

And of course the loser then requests En Banc? then how long?

just very curious about a time line

esqappellate · Sep 2, 2015

swinokur said:
And of course the loser then requests En Banc? then how long?

just very curious about a time line

en banc is heavily disfavored in the DC Circuit and they are fast. 2 months or less to issue an order

swinokur · Sep 2, 2015

so whoever loses may be SOL if SCOTUS denies CERT?

esqappellate · Sep 2, 2015

swinokur said:
so whoever loses may be SOL if SCOTUS denies CERT?

sure. SCOTUS is the end of the line

Schipperke · Sep 2, 2015

esqappellate said:
sure. SCOTUS is the end of the line

Use to be. For now it is Obama..

swinokur · Sep 2, 2015

esqappellate said:
sure. SCOTUS is the end of the line

I guess my point was whoever loses at the Circuit, if they don't get En Banc, it might be the end of the line.

fightinbluhen51 · Sep 2, 2015

Schipperke said:
They are marinating the denial letters in Everclear so we can all burn them together.

That's banned in MD now (as of Oct. 1). So if that's the case they'll be bootlegging too.

Wrenn PI Granted (DC Shall Issue)

The #1 community for Gun Owners of the Northeast

Member Benefits:

Ultimate Member

Ultimate Member

Ultimate Member

Ultimate Member

Hoarding Douche Waffle

Member

In a State of Bliss

Ultimate Member

In a State of Bliss

Ultimate Member

President, MSI

Attachments

In a State of Bliss

President, MSI

In a State of Bliss

President, MSI

In a State of Bliss

President, MSI

Ultimate Member

In a State of Bliss

"Quack Pot Call Honker"

Users who are viewing this thread

Log in

Forum statistics