Who wants to get the ball rolling?

ericahls · Feb 18, 2015

I am considering sending a letter to our new superintendent of the Maryland State police requesting that my restrictions on my carry permit read "for all lawful purposes"

What are the thoughts of the rest of you who have been fortunate enough to have been granted carry permits. Are you going to request a modification of your restrictions?

To be clear, I will wait until he is confirmed.

I also will be writing a respectful REQUEST to the new Super. No demands, etc. I am not married to the “all lawful purposes” just wording that basically encompasses that sentiment.

I think it will be interesting to see the response and justification for denying my request, if that is indeed the outcome.

My request is not unreasonable, the restrictions are! I have been background checked, close friends interviewed, turned over my medical histories, financials, anything and everything they wanted.

The restrictions basically say that I am to be trusted here and in this circumstance but outside that my character and rational are suspect and therefor I am no longer allowed to carry.

I have been to Annapolis, spoke at the hearings ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtjDcmZyFLY ), gathered with my fellow 2A brothers and sisters to support our rights.

I think that the time is NOW. Once confirmed the new Super either knows or he doesn’t which way he is going to come down. A refusal letter will require him to articulate his position and then the rest of you will know where you stand, no more guessing.

I am hoping that he will agree to my REASONABLE request and then a new day for the 2A community will be upon us.

Schipperke · Feb 18, 2015

ericahls said:
I am considering sending a letter to our new superintendent of the Maryland State police requesting that my restrictions on my carry permit read "for all lawful purposes"

What are the thoughts of the rest of you who have been fortunate enough to have been granted carry permits. Are you going to request a modification of your restrictions?

Isn't that the problem now? The state decides what "lawful purposes" are, and for we that don't rate to get them, that is what they hang their hat on. That phrase btw is boiler plate in establishing a business under a LLC.

Mr H · Feb 18, 2015

ericahls said:
I am considering sending a letter to our new superintendent of the Maryland State police requesting that my restrictions on my carry permit read "for all lawful purposes"

What are the thoughts of the rest of you who have been fortunate enough to have been granted carry permits. Are you going to request a modification of your restrictions?

Pallozzi made comments yesterday that he is focusing on Hogan's budget and other priorities at this point. Bombarding him with permit issues could be a real turnoff.

Personally, I think holding off a bit would be helpful... but that's just me.

Bertfish · Feb 18, 2015

Pushing the new superintendent or the Governor, especially this quickly out of the gate, will not help the cause. Best way is to publicly show overwhelming support for the bills which seek to make Maryland a shall-issue state

protegeV · Feb 18, 2015

Bertfish said:
Pushing the new superintendent or the Governor, especially this quickly out of the gate, will not help the cause. Best way is to publicly show overwhelming support for the bills which seek to make Maryland a true shall-issue state

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Jaybeez · Feb 18, 2015

give it a few weeks. the new super is going to most likely rearrange command staff and place his people in command positions, like command of the licensing division. he still needs to be confirmed.

in the meantime, public support for bills like the repeal of the ballistics fingerprinting, and sb100 and hb767, would go a long way to convincing both the legislature and the governor's office that something needs to change.

LoneRanger · Feb 18, 2015

Shouldn't you at least wait until the man is confirmed by the state senate?

frogman68 · Feb 18, 2015

as Jaybeez says support the bills if they fail then I think 4/14 would be the best day to apply

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As training exempt I will gladly be a test case (still will do the training with the wife though)

we need a new group of "365'ers"

AssMan · Feb 18, 2015

When he's confirmed, start writing letters.

AssMan · Feb 18, 2015

Half the folks on this forum will be telling you to wait until after the legislative session before pushing on Hogan or the MSP. Apparently we can't walk AND chew gum.

Hit and Run · Feb 18, 2015

Will be writing as soon as he is confirmed. He needs to understand the magnitude of the feelings on this issue. Will not be waiting.

iH8DemLibz · Feb 18, 2015

ericahls said:
I am considering sending a letter to our new superintendent of the Maryland State police requesting that my restrictions on my carry permit read "for all lawful purposes"

What are the thoughts of the rest of you who have been fortunate enough to have been granted carry permits. Are you going to request a modification of your restrictions?

This session, I say we act like good little boy and good girl serfs.

Wait and see how events unfold. Let those installed get a feel for the reins before dictating terms.

Next session however.....

Jaybeez · Feb 18, 2015

if you want to write letters, there are two whole committees that need letters in support of sb100 and hb767.

if you want to make requests, show up for gun bills days amd request passage of self defense as a good & sunstantial.

that will have more impact than a letter to an unconfirmed appointee.

LoneRanger · Feb 18, 2015

Hit and Run said:
Will be writing as soon as he is confirmed. He needs to understand the magnitude of the feelings on this issue. Will not be waiting.

Would like to hope that someone that spent 26 years in the MSP would already understand the magnitude of feelings on this issue....but he serves at the pleasure of the Governor....if an issue is a political hot potato for the Governor it's a hot potato for his appointees........

Mr H · Feb 18, 2015

iH8DemLibz said:
This session, I say we act like good little boy and good girl serfs.

Wait and see how events unfold. Let those installed get a feel for the reins before dictating terms.

Next session however.....

Going to disagree a bit.

What we need to do this session is pressure the GA as we normally do, but hold back on the Administration until after sine die.

If legislation doesn't get through, that is far from the end of the world. There is still 9 months to push for changes through COMAR, and failing that an EO... THEN revisit all fronts next session with all 4 feet.

iH8DemLibz · Feb 18, 2015

Mr H said:
Going to disagree a bit.

What we need to do this session is pressure the GA as we normally do, but hold back on the Administration until after sine die.

If legislation doesn't get through, that is far from the end of the world. There is still 9 months to push for changes through COMAR, and failing that an EO... THEN revisit all fronts next session with all 4 feet.

Completely agree.

Was just saying writing venom laden letters to unconfirmed or even newly appointed people could come across as rude as unproductive.

AssMan · Feb 18, 2015

As predicted...

Better wait. It's not worth working on all fronts now. Better to hold back and wait until next session. Blah, blah, blah.

Sounds like a strategy crafted by Obummer and Jen Psaki. Sure to fail.

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BeoBill · Feb 18, 2015

snallygaster said:
Half the folks on this forum will be telling you to wait until after the legislative session before pushing on Hogan or the MSP. Apparently we can't walk AND chew gum.

A week before your first day on the job you are given the firm's biggest problem in years to solve. How would you feel about your new employer? Would you even show up next Monday?

AssMan · Feb 18, 2015

BeoBill said:
A week before your first day on the job you are given the firm's biggest problem in years to solve. How would you feel about your new employer? Would you even show up next Monday?

I'm not certain that I understand the analogy, but my actual job IS solving major problems, turnarounds and dealing with uncertainty, so maybe it's lost on me. But yes, if I was hired to solve problems and clean up after a sloppy predecessor, I'd show up on Monday.

I don't see any harm in pursuing all available paths with respect to regaining our rights.

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dblas · Feb 18, 2015

ericahls said:
I am considering sending a letter to our new superintendent of the Maryland State police requesting that my restrictions on my carry permit read "for all lawful purposes"

What are the thoughts of the rest of you who have been fortunate enough to have been granted carry permits. Are you going to request a modification of your restrictions?

I would wait for two reasons:

1. wait until he is confirmed.

2. until he gets his feet under him and his priorities set.

I'm not saying don't do it, and I'm not saying wait forever, but doing it now, will only result in a denial letter from licensing (where he will send the request to, if his office does not return it and advise you to send it to licensing.).

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