Baltimore Police Overhaul Challenged By Murder Crisis

shacklefordbanks · Nov 1, 2017

http://www.npr.org/2017/10/31/560930367/baltimore-police-overhaul-challenged-by-murder-crisis?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news

"Look over there!" he says, pointing out a cluster of about 20 men on a street corner. "You got people who are selling drugs, and the cop is sitting right there — and they're sitting on the damned police car!"

Barksdale, who's also African-American, uses a term that's more often heard from conservative critics of the Black Lives Matter movement: "That's de-policing. This is what you're seeing — this is de-policing!"

SNIP

"We have this problem right now that in certain neighborhoods of Baltimore, like the western district, at current levels of violence, 20 percent of men will be murdered in their lifetime."

Personal note: I'm guessing that Frosh does not live in that neighborhood.

danb · Nov 1, 2017

Maybe the people quoted should review the long line of Supreme Court cases that establish that the police have no duty to protect you.

Residents are their own first (and sometimes second and third) first responders. People need to take back their carry rights and beat back the thugs and corrupt cops.

There is also the not insignificant chance that in Baltimore the cops are protecting the drug dealers. When the politicians pose for pictures with the gangs after a riot, who do you really think is in charge of the city?

Bob A · Nov 1, 2017

"De-policing" areas that resent a police presence, while allocating scarce police resources to areas that remain socially viable, is the only way to keep a core of tax-paying citizenry in an otherwise failing city.

Of course, supporting the police if it's politically inconvenient might alleviate the attrition in the ranks. I suspect the bulk of the remaining police force is only sticking it out until they can lock in the pension.

Creating a multi-generational entitlement class, with the numbers to vote themselves a piece of the Treasury is not easily reversable, and in fact may be impossible to root out. To a great extent, the rot has taken hold of our society.

5.56blaster · Nov 1, 2017

If the good people of Baltimore got together and reverted to a little old West justice (X100) maybe the bad guys would start to get the message. Court system doesn't work, no way for honest folks to properly defend themselves on the street, cops can't do their job, Democrats screw up everything. GET A ROPE!!!

tkd4life · Nov 1, 2017

Bob A said:
"De-policing" areas that resent a police presence, while allocating scarce police resources to areas that remain socially viable, is the only way to keep a core of tax-paying citizenry in an otherwise failing city.

Of course, supporting the police if it's politically inconvenient might alleviate the attrition in the ranks. I suspect the bulk of the remaining police force is only sticking it out until they can lock in the pension.

Creating a multi-generational entitlement class, with the numbers to vote themselves a piece of the Treasury is not easily reversable, and in fact may be impossible to root out. To a great extent, the rot has taken hold of our society.

Great post. Keeping the Inner Harbor and the Roland Park area happy is about all they can do at this point. Besides, isn't this exactly what the BLM movement wanted anyway? No better way to eliminate police brutality than to eliminate police presence.

tkd4life · Nov 1, 2017

After reading the article though, you can't help but to laugh at the utter stupidity in the story. Residents complained about policing in the city after the Freddy Gray fiasco so the Justice Department investigated and found some practices to be unconstitutional. One of those practices was specifically "corner clearing".

Now that the city has stopped this practice as directed by the federal government, city residents want the police to reenact the practice because it was so effective. You can't have it both ways.

rseymorejr · Nov 1, 2017

tkd4life said:
Great post. Keeping the Inner Harbor and the Roland Park area happy is about all they can do at this point. Besides, isn't this exactly what the BLM movement wanted anyway? No better way to eliminate police brutality than to eliminate police presence.

Inner Harbor? You've been out of he loop for a couple days, haven't you?

Bob A · Nov 1, 2017

5.56blaster said:
If the good people of Baltimore got together and reverted to a little old West justice (X100) maybe the bad guys would start to get the message. Court system doesn't work, no way for honest folks to properly defend themselves on the street, cops can't do their job, Democrats screw up everything. GET A ROPE!!!

A Rope?! You can't even leave a banana around without triggering a massive snowflakefall.

GrimReaper · Nov 1, 2017

I dont blame the police for not arresting people. Its a waste of time because the prosecutors are just going to drop the charges or the judge will just give them a slap on the wrist

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Rick · Nov 1, 2017

David Simon on Baltimore’s Anguish

David Simon puts much of the blame of what led up to the Freddy Gray death in Baltimore directly on Martin O'Malley who ran for mayor on a "tough on crime" platform. The "Street Sweeping" (or as some call it "Corner Clearing") policing was his idea. He describes what he sees as the problem in Baltimore in the above linked interview with The Marshall Project. This is pretty much how I remember the O'Malley years in Baltimore.

David Simon is Baltimore’s best-known chronicler of life on the hard streets. He worked for The Baltimore Sun city desk for a dozen years, wrote “Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets” (1991) and with former homicide detective Ed Burns co-wrote “THE CORNER: A YEAR IN THE LIFE OF AN INNER-CITY NEIGHBORHOOD”1 (1997), which Simon adapted into an HBO miniseries. He is the creator, executive producer and head writer of the HBO television series “The Wire” (2002–2008). Simon is a member of The Marshall Project’s advisory board. He spoke with Bill Keller on Tuesday.

traveller · Nov 1, 2017

Baltimore receives the policing it voted for.

j_h_smith · Nov 1, 2017

Why would/should police officer chase these criminals only to have them released and never spend any time in jail for their criminal activities?

The revolving door at the courthouse is more of a problem than de-policing.

rseymorejr · Nov 1, 2017

j_h_smith said:
Why would/should police officer chase these criminals only to have them released and never spend any time in jail for their criminal activities?

The revolving door at the courthouse is more of a problem than de-policing.

Or one of the poor misunderstood altar boys could stub a toe and the cop gets hung out to dry.

Baltimore is becoming exactly what Marilyn Mosbey and Stephanie Blake wanted.

Engine4 · Nov 1, 2017

How soon before someone being attacked at the inner harbor pulls out a taser on the utes?

rseymorejr · Nov 1, 2017

Engine4 said:
How soon before someone being attacked at the inner harbor pulls out a taser on the utes?

What Baltimore desperately needs is Paul Kersey.

whistlersmother · Nov 1, 2017

traveller said:
Baltimore receives the policing it voted for.

^ EXACTLY this. Until the voters have had enough of the violence, nothing will change.

And that goes for the judges also - Baltimore supports catch-n-release.

j_h_smith · Nov 1, 2017

Engine4 said:
How soon before someone being attacked at the inner harbor pulls out a taser on the utes?

I think you'll see someone pull out a firearm before you see a taser. They're going to mess with the wrong person one day and there's going to be a few more dead utes on the street of Bloodymore, Maryland.

songlaw · Nov 1, 2017

For my money, “The Wire” was the best series ever.

traveller · Nov 2, 2017

songlaw said:
For my money, “The Wire” was the best series ever.

'The Wire' was a documentary.

Doctor_M · Nov 2, 2017

Oh if it weren't for those pesky, nuisance murders statistics, Baltimore would be Nirvana... reminds me of something the late "great" Mayor Barry said about our neighboring metropolis.

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