HPRB is History

Mr. Ed · Jan 30, 2020

Just got this from NRA-ILA:

Doctor_M · Jan 30, 2020

It is a sad day for freedom and for modest checks against and unjust government.

welder516 · Jan 30, 2020

It is a sad day for freedom and a step or two from SCOTUS getting involved as they continue to remove law abiding citizens rights and by giving more rights to criminals . I am appalled at the liberal progressive dems. , socialist , and sheep .

shrinkwrap · Jan 30, 2020

Now that the libtards have abolished recourse, they will re-instate near-impossible standards for CCW. I suspected that this was the plan all along when business owners were suddenly allowed to get an unrestricted permit.

KevinK · Jan 30, 2020

TheOriginalMexicanBob · Jan 30, 2020

The MGA looks at us...the deplorables...as nothing more than serfs.

welder516 · Jan 30, 2020

If Hogan had balls like Trump , i would say for him to remove G&S and tell the Super to remove that where all could get permits .

Tungsten · Jan 30, 2020

Not sure how this is any different than the bs rubber stamp HPRB that has been in effect for the last few months.

MARYLANDJOHN · Jan 30, 2020

Ugh I hate this bs

BeoBill · Jan 30, 2020

shrinkwrap said:
Now that the libtards have abolished recourse, they will re-instate near-impossible standards for CCW. I suspected that this was the plan all along when business owners were suddenly allowed to get an unrestricted permit.

I agree. And kiss the last fragment of civilian MSP oversight goodbye. THAT is the most significant aspect, IMO.

The rogue agency is now completely unchecked.

Stoveman · Jan 30, 2020

Tungsten said:
Not sure how this is any different than the bs rubber stamp HPRB that has been in effect for the last few months.

True enough, but the board has been dead since October 2018, this was just the lid being closed on the coffin.

onedash · Jan 30, 2020

Who is our (MSI's) or Maryland's Rosa Parks? We need someone who was denied a carry permit to have standing to file a lawsuit right? What does that lawsuit cost to make it's way to the supreme court?

Stoveman · Jan 30, 2020

onedash said:
Who is our (MSI's) or Maryland's Rosa Parks? We need someone who was denied a carry permit to have standing to file a lawsuit right? What does that lawsuit cost to make it's way to the supreme court?

Malpasso and Whalen. Search through the threads here.

shootin the breeze · Jan 30, 2020

welder516 said:
If Hogan had balls like Trump , i would say for him to remove G&S and tell the Super to remove that where all could get permits .

Unfortunately, lawn chair larry has an innie not an outie so that won't happen.

Five more years....

danb · Jan 30, 2020

welder516 said:
If Hogan had balls like Trump , i would say for him to remove G&S and tell the Super to remove that where all could get permits .

Nah. At this point it would be immediately shot down by the courts and Frosh filing a lawsuit. Moreover, it would put a few lawsuits at risk, lawsuits wending their way through the courts. At minimum delay them. Its a waste of taxpayer dollars and tilting at windmills, like Frosh.

Fate of G&S will be decided by Justice Roberts, probably by the end of the summer. In fact it may already have been decided, we simply have not seen the opinion yet. And if the Supreme Court does decide to further take up a carry case after NYSRPA (like Malpasso, they have about half a dozen to choose from which would likely get consolidated), changing the rules in the middle of the game could end up delaying changes in MD, not speeding them up.

Skipjacks · Jan 30, 2020

welder516 said:
If Hogan had balls like Trump , i would say for him to remove G&S and tell the Super to remove that where all could get permits .

Hogan is a pure bred RINO

Alea Jacta Est · Jan 30, 2020

shootin the breeze said:
Unfortunately, lawn chair larry has an innie not an outie so that won't happen.

Five more years....

THIS DOC. THIS.

Feckin funny too, you are.

pbharvey · Jan 30, 2020

Exactly

fidelity · Jan 30, 2020

This was a coordinated action, much likely having concurrent sessions on anti-2A legislation a couple of weeks ago. Wonder what else they have planned.

fidelity · Jan 30, 2020

From the Washington Post ...

Maryland’s Democratic-majority legislature reverses five Hogan vetoes

Maryland’s Democratic-majority legislature on Thursday reversed five of Republican Gov. Larry Hogan’s vetoes, flexing the political strength that has consistently diluted the governor’s power and influence.

After debate that was at times personal, lawmakers reinstated legislation that controls when employers can ask about a job applicant’s criminal history and abolishes a citizen board that reviews concealed handgun permits.

The General Assembly also overrode Hogan’s veto of an expansion of the state’s Dream Act, which grants in-state tuition to undocumented immigrants, and restored a new way to manage the rebounding oyster population in the Chesapeake Bay.

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In the most high-profile veto, the governor objected to a plan to give administrative law judges, rather than a politically appointed panel, the power to issue final decisions on who can have a concealed-carry permit.

The Handgun Permit Review Board has been under heavy scrutiny since Hogan took office, criticized for granting more permits and for its spotty adherence to Maryland’s open meeting laws. Hogan said abolishing the board would not reduce violent crime and called the move “just another in a long series of politically motivated and ill-conceived power grabs.”

The House of Delegates overrode that veto on a party-line vote of 89-49, four more votes than required. The Senate overrode it 30-16, with two more votes than required and minimal debate.

Several Republicans argued that the citizen board, created in 1972, was working well and had never issued a permit to someone who went on to kill someone.

“Why on earth are we changing the law?” asked Del. Jefferson L. Ghrist (R-Eastern Shore). “Based on that, the citizen advisory board, they haven’t made any bad decisions … Could it be that the governor was appointing a bunch of chest-pounding NRA members? Maybe.”

Del. Vanessa Atterbeary (D-Howard) said abolishing the board was common sense, noting that all other decisions by state agencies are appealed to an administrative law judge. That appeals process was created in 1990, nearly two decades after the handgun panel was launched.

1) I thought that the HPRB spotty adherence to MD open meeting's law is something that occurred under past Democratic governors and was fixed under Hogan with members here (including one in my neighborhood) helping point out this deficiency.

2) Only Del. Atterbeary is permitted to use the phrase "common sense" apparently. Yes, civilian oversight of government agencies is so antiquated.

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