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Old December 8th, 2017, 08:18 PM #11
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Ammo & Ballistics 4 has three .357 Magnum (Rifle Data) loads listed two Winchester 20-inch barrel and one Federal 18-inch barrel, none of them make 1200 Ft-Lbs at the muzzle. I suspect the DNR police know what will and what won't.
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Why folks rechamber their .357 Magnum H&Rs/NEFs Handi-Rifles to .357 Maximum for hunting deer is now evident.
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I think the average muzzle energy of the .357 with a 6" bbl is around 650 lb/ft. Not sure what can be achieved with a long barrel.

Take the stock off and call it a pistol, you're a shoe-in (J/K)
You can hunt deer in Maryland with a handgun but it has to make at least 700 Ft-Lbs. muzzle energy out of a minimum 6" barrel and a quick look at Ammo & Ballistics does not show the .357 Magnum making that thresh hold. Among the more common calibers you would need .44 Magnum, .454 Casull, .480 Ruger or .50 caliber.

Correction: Aguila makes .357 Magnum ammo that is advertised to be 838 Ft-Lbs. muzzle energy.
https://www.aguilaammo.com/centerfire/#pistoltab

MD hunting regs showing ammo requirements:
http://www.eregulations.com/maryland...ns-bag-limits/

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Check out the specs on these loadings ...

https://underwoodammo.com/product/ha...-metal-jacket/

https://underwoodammo.com/product/ha...ose-gas-check/

I bet either will do the trick. Although the top linked round will have more energy, my preference for hunting would be the slightly slower and heavier round in the second link.

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I'd look to Buffalo Bore. They show several loads that would exceed the Maryland 1200 foot pounds of energy rifle requirement. Becomes easier if your Henry is a 20 inch tube, or if in another of your mentioned .357's, one measuring longer than carbine length. Buffalo Bore publishes an 18.5 inch barrel velocity spec.

Either way, if hunting Md. with .357 rifle, I'd plan on having manufacturer energy by ammo by barrel length documentation on my person. The clearer the better. I can envision that you could encounter a tough sell otherwise here.
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You can hunt deer in Maryland with a handgun but it has to make at least 700 Ft-Lbs. muzzle energy out of a minimum 6" barrel and a quick look at Ammo & Ballistics does not show the .357 Magnum making that thresh hold. Among the more common calibers you would need .44 Magnum, .454 Casull, .480 Ruger or .50 caliber.

http://www.eregulations.com/maryland...ns-bag-limits/
I think you missed the point of my quip(no longer talking about 6" barrels).
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I think you missed the point of my quip(no longer talking about 6" barrels).
You are right I missed the quip. My Bad.
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I think the average muzzle energy of the .357 with a 6" bbl is around 650 lb/ft. Not sure what can be achieved with a long barrel.

Take the stock off and call it a pistol, you're a shoe-in (J/K)

Here is another site with Ft#s @ the muzzle http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html


According to the above site, it looks like anything >4" barrel will get there.
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Great thread!!!

I picked up some Buffalo Bore ammo last year just for this, i really want to hunt with my .357 mag rifle.

I think this ammo will do it.
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You are right I missed the quip. My Bad.
Years ago(like 25) I wanted so bad to hunt deer with my 686 8 3/8" bbl, but I couldn't find any source stating I could reach the mark. I eventually sold the gun and bought a Wetherby 30-06.
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