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Old November 28th, 2017, 09:37 PM #1
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GSG 1911 22 or Smith & Wesson M&P22?

Hey All,

OK, I'm accepting that I'll never make nice nice with my un-beloved early model Smith & Wesson SW22 Victory.

I got one to replace a Ruger MKIII Hunter Model, which I loved with the exception of its breakdown for cleaning.

I love the easy takedown of the SW22, the simplicity, and the reliability - not a single issue at all in 250 some odd rounds. However I just can't stand the grips, and therefore don't shoot it inconsistently! Now I understand I can drop $146 on some nice target grips, however I just ain't feelin this thing, so its gonna go, whether trade or sale...

So, I'm looking to replace it with a new 22 auto, and my top seeds at the moment are either the GSG 1911 22 Target, or the Smith & Wesson M&P22 - full sized.

I like the prospect of the M&P22, because I recently purchased one of TK Defense's Police Trade-in M&P 9's, and I was shocked how much I liked it right out of the box, in spite of the bad press about its trigger. I shot it as well if not better than a very modified Glock 19. So having an M&P22 as a similar form factor auto may be nice. I understand the 22 has hammer firing internals vs. the 9's striker firing internals, but most of the reviews I look at seem to suggest its a good shooter as well right out of the box just like the 9.

I like the prospect of the GSG because I am a 1911 fan - Colt Defender, and an ATI FX45 Thunderbolt Enhanced(V-10 ported) - and the GSG it seems to have LOTS of options for pretty affordable upgrades and "accurizing." I can also get it in "Target" gripped format, for cheaper than I got my SW22 Victory base model.

So, which to buy? I'm interested in anyone's personal experience with these. loved em, hated them, quirks with either, what say you?

Any info greatly appreciated. Opinions welcomed as well.

TIA,

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Why not get a Ruger Mark 4?

If you love the Mark iii, the new model takes care of your disassembly issue.
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Why not get a Ruger Mark 4?

If you love the Mark iii, the new model takes care of your disassembly issue.
Well, mostly price. The "trade up" I'd be doing with the mentioned pistols would be minimal cost. If I got another Ruger, it'd cost $150-$250 more than the SW22 I'd be trading in. Plus everything seems more expensive - upgrades, mags, etc.. Oh, and the 22/45 is not as much of interest, as I don't like the polymer lowers, vs. the metal ones of the mentioned pistols... --JB
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With .22 pistols, I'm of the opinion that you get what you pay for.

I've shot the compact m&p but not full size. It seemed to work fine.
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I have a SIG 1911 22 made by GSG with the SIG name. Fires great. Need to use CCI mini mags or any other high velocity rounds due to heavy slide. Made in Germany.
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The M&P22 Compact is nice, but since itís the only .22 Pistol Iíve fired I️ canít offer a comparison.
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I have the m&p22 compact and I love it. After a lot of online research I went with the compact because, by most accounts it was a much more reliable gun. Mine will reliably cycle everything I have fed it with the exception of American Eagle .22.
It is worth taking a look at.
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I have a Ruger Mk I target barrel and an M&P 22 compact. The M&P 22 has better ergos but the Ruger is a real tack driver. I would imagine the Mk IV would be about the same.
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I have a SIG 1911 22 made by GSG with the SIG name. Fires great. Need to use CCI mini mags or any other highny velocity rounds due to heavy slide. Made in Germany.
Good to know. Thanks Funny thing about the M&P is that it too is made in Germany - by Walther. --JB
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I have the m&p22 compact and I love it. After a lot of online research I went with the compact because, by most accounts it was a much more reliable gun. Mine will reliably cycle everything I have fed it with the exception of American Eagle .22.
It is worth taking a look at.
Oh? Interesting. Any idea's as to why more reliable? I'm assuming because less slide mass to move, or maybe spring rates. I'd be amenable to getting a compact. I'm assuming you lose any option to upgrade mags for more capacity, yes? --JB
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