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Old November 25th, 2017, 12:20 PM #11
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I'm not familiar with revolvers, but is only the first pull DA with an exposed hammer then the rest are S.A.? If so I definitely want an exposed hammer.



She held an SP101 yesterday and liked it. I've been telling her I'm looking at them for a carry gun for me lol.



Why? Just curious.
All pulls are Double Action, unless you have a hammer to cock.
(There is no slide cocking the hammer after first pull)

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Old November 25th, 2017, 12:24 PM #12
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Range and self protection. I have a Glock 19 personally and she shoots it very well but prefers a revolver for protection.
Good deal. I stand by the recommendation of the Sp-101 then. She might like it with Crimson Trace laser grips, I never got used to them. When I bought mine ten years ago it was common to replace the hammer and trigger springs with Wolf brand springs to smooth out the trigger pull. I don't know if that's still commonly done but it did improve the trigger on my gun.
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I'm partial to the ugly S&W model 38 (or 49, same gun, steel frame instead of alloy). You retain the ability to fire single-action, but the shroud is helpful to prevent the hammer spur from catching on stuff. I guess the 649 is also the same config.

If you must have 6 shots instead of five, Colt has a dandy hammer shroud for their Detective Special configured revolvers.
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I'm partial to the ugly S&W model 38 (or 49, same gun, steel frame instead of alloy). You retain the ability to fire single-action, but the shroud is helpful to prevent the hammer spur from catching on stuff. I guess the 649 is also the same config.

If you must have 6 shots instead of five, Colt has a dandy hammer shroud for their Detective Special configured revolvers.
Stay away from the model 38 as it is an alloy gun and for the purpose of "wife at range" a all steel gun is going to be a better option to absorb the recoil. I have the model 38 and 49 and love them both but not so much for his requirements although the 49 would be a fit, price range will pull it out of the running and they are harder to find.

Here is the long and short. They will all be fine for range and SD but there are two real factors to consider.

A) Hammer vs no hammer............If you aren't carrying it then no hammer is stupid. Pulling the hammer back obviously lightens the trigger pull, lighter trigger pull means easier shooting, meaning more accurate shots, lastly meaning a happier wife. If shes not having fun than she isn't going to want to do it.

B) Alloy or steel. Simple............Steel. Heavier is better IMHO for your "requirements"



Suggestion--- I would personally suggest a S&W model 10 with the snub barrel. Exposed hammer (easier shooting), all steel (less perceived recoil), can be found from 350-500 on GB so it fights the price range and as an added bonus barring you don't cerakote it or drop it in rust it will not lose value should you decide you want something else.


Also you can replace everything I just said about the model 10 with SP101 and the results are basically the same. (Joppa's suggestion)
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No, single/double only refers to trigger operation. Every revolver is double action as the hammer must be cocked and then released (two actions). Single action simply means you can manually cock the gun then release with the trigger (single operation by the trigger), and must be done manually for every shot.
Thank you for the clarification. Much appreciated!

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All pulls are Double Action, unless you have a hammer to cock.
(There is no slide cocking the hammer after first pull)

S&W 637

Makes sense, Thanks!

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Good deal. I stand by the recommendation of the Sp-101 then. She might like it with Crimson Trace laser grips, I never got used to them. When I bought mine ten years ago it was common to replace the hammer and trigger springs with Wolf brand springs to smooth out the trigger pull. I don't know if that's still commonly done but it did improve the trigger on my gun.
Local shop can get me a brand new SP101 for under 500 bucks. That may be the way to go.

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I'm partial to the ugly S&W model 38 (or 49, same gun, steel frame instead of alloy). You retain the ability to fire single-action, but the shroud is helpful to prevent the hammer spur from catching on stuff. I guess the 649 is also the same config.

If you must have 6 shots instead of five, Colt has a dandy hammer shroud for their Detective Special configured revolvers.
5 should do but much appreciated!
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Our friend MPDC is a revolver man and his suggestion of the Model 10 is a good one. That's a real workhorse gun.

Forgive me if you know this already. For my money, any snubnose is a compromise. You're sacrificing velocity for portability and concealability. That makes your round selection even more important than usual. Years ago I was taught by a Border Patrol instructor who preached that the only real option here was the "FBI load" for a snubnosed .38. The FBI load is a .38+p 158gr Semi Wad Cutter Hollow Point. Buffalo Bore makes a really nice version of it and my Sp-101 eats them like expensive candy. They have performed well in every test I've ever seen.
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Stay away from the model 38 as it is an alloy gun and for the purpose of "wife at range" a all steel gun is going to be a better option to absorb the recoil. I have the model 38 and 49 and love them both but not so much for his requirements although the 49 would be a fit, price range will pull it out of the running and they are harder to find.

Here is the long and short. They will all be fine for range and SD but there are two real factors to consider.

A) Hammer vs no hammer............If you aren't carrying it then no hammer is stupid. Pulling the hammer back obviously lightens the trigger pull, lighter trigger pull means easier shooting, meaning more accurate shots, lastly meaning a happier wife. If shes not having fun than she isn't going to want to do it.

B) Alloy or steel. Simple............Steel. Heavier is better IMHO for your "requirements"



Suggestion--- I would personally suggest a S&W model 10 with the snub barrel. Exposed hammer (easier shooting), all steel (less perceived recoil), can be found from 350-500 on GB so it fights the price range and as an added bonus barring you don't cerakote it or drop it in rust it will not lose value should you decide you want something else.


Also you can replace everything I just said about the model 10 with SP101 and the results are basically the same. (Joppa's suggestion)
Thank you for your input, I'm trying to talk her into a 4 inch revolver but she wants what she wants lol. I'll look into a model 10.

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Our friend MPDC is a revolver man and his suggestion of the Model 10 is a good one. That's a real workhorse gun.

Forgive me if you know this already. For my money, any snubnose is a compromise. You're sacrificing velocity for portability and concealability. That makes your round selection even more important than usual. Years ago I was taught by a Border Patrol instructor who preached that the only real option here was the "FBI load" for a snubnosed .38. The FBI load is a .38+p 158gr Semi Wad Cutter Hollow Point. Buffalo Bore makes a really nice version of it and my Sp-101 eats them like expensive candy. They have performed well in every test I've ever seen.
I'm not a fan of snub noses for the reasons you mentioned. I'm debating a sp101 in .357 just in case she gets comfortable enough to shoot them. However, I'm not sure how much of a benefit .357 would be over. 38 +P out of a 2 inch barrel. I use buffalo bore ammo in my woods gun, I'm a big fan.
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I AM a revolver guy . The concept of " get a snubnose for the wife, because they are small & cute, and she's a girl " is a major red flag .

Is your wife experienced with revolvers generally ? With small frame snubs specifically? For anyone a lightweight snub is not a good choice for a first revolver ( or first handgun ).

Making a leap she's not experienced Revolver Lady , and because range fun was also listed , I will further join the chorus for the SP101 . Great guns , very shootable as snubs go . ( Yes , I continue my lust affair with 2in RB K frames . But you would have to search for one, and then wrestle a S&W collector over it .

Of the guns listed in first post , * I * would like a M637 to take the place of my previous M37 , but it's a " carry a lot, shoot a little " gun . The steel frame Taraus M85 is on the short list of guns that Taraus has done long enough , they have figured out.

I default prefer traditional hammer . If nothing else , I prefer holsters with thumbreak, etc , and traditional styled guns fit , and are secured better. And long ago I learned how to minimize snagging issues with traditional hammer spurs .
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Thank you for your input, I'm trying to talk her into a 4 inch revolver but she wants what she wants lol. I'll look into a model 10.



I'm not a fan of snub noses for the reasons you mentioned. I'm debating a sp101 in .357 just in case she gets comfortable enough to shoot them. However, I'm not sure how much of a benefit .357 would be over. 38 +P out of a 2 inch barrel. I use buffalo bore ammo in my woods gun, I'm a big fan.
Let her rent and shoot a 4 inch and a snub nose both. You might find she (maybe quickly) changes her mind.
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http://www.gunbroker.com/item/720339980

Mr. Jones on a side note this auction may be worth watching. The revolver isn't in collector condition with the lack of original grips, very minor pitting, and no original box should keep the price down. this gun should go for less than 450. I know that's a little higher than you mentioned but other than that it meets all your requirements AND has that cool factor of the shroud. It's the all steel bodyguard so that should help a little with the recoil. You can still fire in both modes making it easier or your wife. You mentioned a possible SD gun and with it having very minor pitting already than who cares if it lays in a bedside table.
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