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Old October 18th, 2016, 02:12 PM #1
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MSP 77r e-portal goes live 1-1-17

Paper 77r's will no longer be accepted.
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Old October 19th, 2016, 06:49 AM #2
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So is this going to be a one and done type of deal?

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huh?

fill out the eform-wait 7 days.

get your gun.
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huh?

fill out the eform-wait 7 days.

get your gun.
I assume the poster means that if you type up your personal info on the 77R portal, then next time your given a chance to review/update your 77R info without having to re-type all the stuff.

I'm not sure if that's how it works or not, but I get sick of filling out all that paperwork.
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oh ok. i have no idea either. maybe an FFL who has attended the training can enlighten us.
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I assume the poster means that if you type up your personal info on the 77R portal, then next time your given a chance to review/update your 77R info without having to re-type all the stuff.

I'm not sure if that's how it works or not, but I get sick of filling out all that paperwork.
That's what MSP says, all you'll have to do is sign in with your password. Everything will be secure and safe ... rrrriiight. "We're from the government ... we're here to help."
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If it works as good as the rest of the states systems then look out for a cluster ---k.
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That's what MSP says, all you'll have to do is sign in with your password. Everything will be secure and safe ... rrrriiight. "We're from the government ... we're here to help."
I agree with you. I just assume the worst of current information security practices and believe doing this just won't amount to diddly in terms of making things worse. I'd rather not have to fill out that form.

I wouldn't mind seeing some kind of PKI solution that allows me to use a card/PIN and everything is kicked into motion without touching a paper form.
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never understood the 7 day wait...if you can "clear" me within a day, 6 more days does nothing but make me want to buy long guns rather than hand...
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never understood the 7 day wait...if you can "clear" me within a day, 6 more days does nothing but make me want to buy long guns rather than hand...
That's called a propensity for violence. Your name's been placed on the secret list.
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the 7 day wait harkens back to the days when paperwork was sent by U.S. Mail. Not by fax and soon to be the Internet.
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This just popped up on our local news website http://www.thebaynet.com/articles/12...inejan1st.html

A couple of things bother me, you must have an e-mail address and you can only pay the $10 by credit or debit card
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same problem for the HQL
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This just popped up on our local news website http://www.thebaynet.com/articles/12...inejan1st.html

A couple of things bother me, you must have an e-mail address and you can only pay the $10 by credit or debit card
I dont recall seeing any of that as a requirement in the public safety article or comar.

Sounds like an administrative "no email address/no credit card/no buy" ban.
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I'd love for an IP to chime in or comment on how this process is supposed to work.

I go to the MSP website and create an account

Fill out the 77R and save it

When purchasing at the dealer use the dealers computer to log in and fill out firearm information

Pay MSP using credit card info now on dealers computer???

Nothing against any IP's on here but now my personal information and credit card are on the dealers computer?
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Some documents on the MSP site : http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizatio...gSessions.aspx

The Licensing Portal Dealer Training Outline pdf in particular seems to imply that this would be done at the dealer on their computer. The dealer would be logged in and you fill out Part 1 and the dealer fills out Part 2.

I for one would not enter my info and credit card info on a computer I do not trust. Not saying that the dealers would do anything nefarious but more that they probably aren't keeping up with security updates.
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What could possibly go wrong on 1/1/17??? I'm all for it if it saves a trip to fill out the damn forms.
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This just popped up on our local news website http://www.thebaynet.com/articles/12...inejan1st.html

A couple of things bother me, you must have an e-mail address and you can only pay the $10 by credit or debit card
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same problem for the HQL
Yeah, I think that's in the HQL lawsuit
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I just talked to my local FFL about this. Seems like more work, or perhaps more movement to me.

At their shop you'll have to fill out a paper 4473 then walk somewhere else to gawk at a computer screen in their shop, use a keyboard and mouse to fill out the MD paperwork.
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I'd love for an IP to chime in or comment on how this process is supposed to work.

I go to the MSP website and create an account

Fill out the 77R and save it

When purchasing at the dealer use the dealers computer to log in and fill out firearm information

Pay MSP using credit card info now on dealers computer???

Nothing against any IP's on here but now my personal information and credit card are on the dealers computer?
The way it was explained to me, was that you create the account ON YOUR OWN COMPUTER (or whomever's you choose), and it's your account...a 1 time thing, like joining a forum.

You fill out the 77R online, then get a PIN number, which is then given to the FFL, by you.

THEY can then put the firearm info in, and then they are notified if you're disapproved or not...then you go pick it up/pay for it.

One trip to the FFL...and done.

The FFL will only have access to the same exact info they now have on any 77R required transaction.

Again, this is how it was explained to me...if it works, LOL, it should be pretty nice making only 1 trip to the FFL.

But, I HIGHLY DOUBT it will work as planned, anywhere near that 1/1/17 start date...so I am buying NOW, whatever I know I want in the near future...and will sit back and watch the show, now called the online 77R show...

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