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Old January 11th, 2017, 08:31 AM #11
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If I read this right 44, it's worse than that. Along with the 20 acre minimum comes a list of new restrictions. One is the 8% max impervious ground limit but there are others. Steve Ball told me that everything except the 8% was already in the regs. I looked - didn't see any of it. I had an open mind on this whole thing at the beginning but the more I look, the more it seems like they continue to rape half the county while we pay the price. I heard on the radio that there is another meeting in Laplata tomorrow at 6:00pm.
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I would advise everyone to go to the meetings
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If this is so great, why do they have to push it through under cover of night ?
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Just got off the phone with the county. Monday's meeting is being continued tomorrow (Wed) at 6:00pm in the LaPlata government building.
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Just got off the phone with the county. Monday's meeting is being continued tomorrow (Wed) at 6:00pm in the LaPlata government building.
I may be able to make it.
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Down zoning is a difficult pill sometimes, but it beats the heck out of the alternative.

IMO, Farms are farms. They have been paying tax forever and a day as a farm. If you want to develop it, for kids or whoever, you should pay the back taxes on the property as if it was a buildable subdivision all along. That's not going to happen, no one could afford it. That's why farmers haven't been paying that tax rate all along. Building for family sounds nice, but it is impossible, once the house is built anyone can buy or sell it.

People expecting a grandfathering of zoning have a good point, but. So many people built before them there can only be so much growth. Sooner or later you need to sh*t or get off the pot or you will miss out on the opportunity. Might not be fair, but there is only so much land, roads, schools, water, sewage capacity, etc for a given area.

Harford county used to be nice, with over-development much of it is a cesspool of crime and drugs. Be careful with what you wish for and support.
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The continuation of the hearing is Thursday at 6.

That's at least what the lady at the admin building front desk told me. I can't see the hearing noticed on the county website.
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IMO, Farms are farms. They have been paying tax forever and a day as a farm. If you want to develop it, for kids or whoever, you should pay the back taxes on the property as if it was a buildable subdivision all along. That's not going to happen, no one could afford it. That's why farmers haven't been paying that tax rate all along. Building for family sounds nice, but it is impossible, once the house is built anyone can buy or sell it.
What justification would you see for that kind of retroactive taxing ? If the property is used for Ag or forestry, it should be taxed as such. If it converts to residential, it should be taxed as residential from that point forward. The public has no right to have farms to look at. If the public wants a farm to remain a farm, they can buy it or buy a conservation easement. Chuck Co did that with Friendship landing farm and others and I am fine with that, but to go to a private landowner and take away his ability to make money of his investment or inheritance is communist shit that people came to this country to get away from.

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People expecting a grandfathering of zoning have a good point, but. So many people built before them there can only be so much growth. Sooner or later you need to sh*t or get off the pot or you will miss out on the opportunity. Might not be fair, but there is only so much land, roads, schools, water, sewage capacity, etc for a given area.
The proposed rezoning will not reduce the amount of development in the county. It uses the smokescreen of 'water quality' to increase the density of development in Waldorf to te detriment of the landowners who happen to own undeveloped land in the Mattawoman watershed.

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Chuck is already a cesspool of crime and drugs. There are entire states with less homicides than Chuck Co. And the sadest thing about that is the fact that it is still one of the nicer counties in Maryland.
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What justification would you see for that kind of retroactive taxing ? If the property is used for Ag or forestry, it should be taxed as such. If it converts to residential, it should be taxed as residential from that point forward. The public has no right to have farms to look at. If the public wants a farm to remain a farm, they can buy it or buy a conservation easement. Chuck Co did that with Friendship landing farm and others and I am fine with that, but to go to a private landowner and take away his ability to make money of his investment or inheritance is communist shit that people came to this country to get away from.

Nope. Not retroactive. "it converts" What does that mean? It is a multi-million dollar gift to the property owner is what it means.

The proposed rezoning will not reduce the amount of development in the county. It uses the smokescreen of 'water quality' to increase the density of development in Waldorf to te detriment of the landowners who happen to own undeveloped land in the Mattawoman watershed.

I know, been there, done that.


Chuck is already a cesspool of crime and drugs. There are entire states with less homicides than Chuck Co. And the sadest thing about that is the fact that it is still one of the nicer counties in Maryland.

Because it is nice. Want to see bad? Upzone and develop.

I don't know all the particulars about your situation. Just trying to help by pointing out to be careful about what you think you want for the future of your area. If you are just interested in cashing out, that is a different story.
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Nope. Not retroactive. "it converts" What does that mean? It is a multi-million dollar gift to the property owner is what it means.
Why is it a 'gift' if one purchases developable land ? If a property is subdividable and has the required road and utility access, the price reflects that development potential. If a property has no development potential (no road access, failed perc, perpetual conservation easement etc.), that is reflected in a lower price. What the county is doing here is to turn land that is currently developable at a 1 house per 10 acre density into almost undevelopable land without compensating the landowners. Under the new rules, the density is down to 1 house in 20 acres or less (depending on the arbitrary imperviable surface rules).

If there was a county ordinance to nuke most of Waldorf, I would be all for it.


   
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