Archeryrob
Undecided on a great many things
You were the one using the ozonics scent control machine, right? I can completely understand that and its use. It is just way more than I would ever pay for that stuff. Are you still using that?
You were the one using the ozonics scent control machine, right? I can completely understand that and its use. It is just way more than I would ever pay for that stuff. Are you still using that?
Oh well...
what's that saying?
"Ignorance is bliss" or something like that...
must be true.
You've all read my experiences and final thoughts on the hecs suit. That said, I can't recall a thread where there was more inexperienced naysaying in it. It's as if most people don't want it to work. I don't mean that to be inflammatory. Just curious.
I will say to Striper69, pictures say a thousand words. Was I wearing my HECS suit when I shot my buck this year? Yes. Do I honestly think it helped. No. Not in this case. I bought the suit to prove whether it was for real or a hoax. My own nonscientific experiment. I found no definite evidence that it worked.
YMMV
Because the EMF humans emit (0.00001 Gauss) is so weak that it is 5,000 to 65,000 times weaker than what migratory birds, fish, and whatever other animals are used to seeing and using for basic navigation. In fact 0.00001 Gauss is so weak that you'd need a superconducting quantum interference device (SQUID) inside an anechoic chamber to detect it. We're talking quantum sensor level devices, most effectively at 4 degrees Kelvin (-452 Fahrenheit) He4. For those of us who have worked with or around anechoic chambers and cryogenic equipment, it strains scientific credibility to believe that deer are capable of detecting quantum-level EMF signals.
Outrider, Rogers has Ozonics on sale for $300, but its still too expensive for my blood.
A little reading on that and its saying breathing it is bad for you.
Well said.Really? Name calling? You know most people here at MDS find that ad hominem attacks say more about the speaker than the recipient. It's much better to make your points with well-reasoned logical arguments than to resort to something so base.
Besides true ignorance isn't lack of any particular point of knowledge; none of us knows everything. Instead true ignorance is best described as the inability or unwillingness to question, to learn, and to grow.
Emphasis mine...Outrider,
There are few hunters at MDS for whom I have greater respect than you. I've read your posts, learned greatly from them, and have tried to apply them in my own life. I'm glad you're kind enough to share your vast experiences with others, including me. I'm a better hunter for it. Thank you.
However, this is a question primarily about science, not about hunting. And with all due respect, you misunderstood the motivations of the skeptics in this thread. It isn't that we don't want it to work. How great would it be if it did? No, it's just that we don't see any practical way that it can, and we very much dislike snake oil salesman. Many of us believe this company likely falls into that category. Why do I say that?
Because the EMF humans emit (0.00001 Gauss) is so weak that it is 5,000 to 65,000 times weaker than what migratory birds, fish, and whatever other animals are used to seeing and using for basic navigation. In fact 0.00001 Gauss is so weak that you'd need a superconducting quantum interference device (SQUID) inside an anechoic chamber to detect it. We're talking quantum sensor level devices, most effectively at 4 degrees Kelvin (-452 Fahrenheit) He4. For those of us who have worked with or around anechoic chambers and cryogenic equipment, it strains scientific credibility to believe that deer are capable of detecting quantum-level EMF signals.
We do know that deer have excellent eyes, much better ears than we have, and much more sensitive noses. That's why all the great advice you and other hunters give about minimizing motion, taking advantage of concealment, eliminating or mitigating scent, understanding and taking advantage of the prevailing wind direction and the topography of the surrounding terrain, is spot on.
EMF? Sorry, but the burden of proof rests squarely with this company, and they've got 4 to 5 orders of magnitude to even begin to demonstrate they're selling anything but a placebo.
Go on Amazon. Search ozone machines.. I got one this summer for my cars ..Outrider, Rogers has Ozonics on sale for $300, but its still too expensive for my blood.