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Old July 11th, 2017, 09:47 AM #1
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HPRB Statistics 2015-2016

Good morning, all.

I received a response from the Department of Public Safety & Correctional Services from a recent PIA request. Specifically, I asked the decisions of the Handgun Permit Review Board for the years of 2015 and 2016. See below for the statistics. Raw data have been removed.

Total
2015: 68
2016: 90

Modified
2015: 10
2016: 20

Overturns MSP
2015: 9
2016: 15

Pending:
2015: 0
2016: 16

Sustains MSP
2015: 41
2016: 35

Unknown:
2015: 8
2016: 4
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Ummm, I wonder if DPSC just violated MD Law by providing the names???
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Ummm, I wonder if DPSC just violated MD Law by providing the names???
Are they not suppose to?
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Ummm, I wonder if DPSC just violated MD Law by providing the names???
Ruh Roh.....

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Are they not suppose to?
No, they are not.

time to dig up statute from 2013
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I'll withhold comment on the numbers as this is a public forum watched by those not friendly to free citizens. Thank you though for sharing.
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MODS, maybe the attachment with names should be removed.
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Good morning, all.

I received a response from the Department of Public Safety & Correctional Services from a recent PIA request. Specifically, I asked the decisions of the Handgun Permit Review Board for the years of 2015 and 2016. See below for the statistics. Raw data is attached as well.

Total
2015: 68
2016: 90

Modified
2015: 10
2016: 20

Overturns MSP
2015: 9
2016: 15

Pending:
2015: 0
2016: 16

Sustains MSP
2015: 41
2016: 35

Unknown:
2015: 8
2016: 4
Good info OP, thanks.

Since there is doubt, you might want to error on the side of caution and take down the actual document with list of names. I know several folks on that list, many more are familiar having listened too and discussed some of these 'cases' in the 2A community. Some of them have permits (or had restrictions lifted) because of the sensitive nature of their position/responsibility, or past duties. Several had closed hearings because they preferred to be non-public. Your call.
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MODS, maybe the attachment with names should be removed.
I think this is a VERY good idea. OP, please remove the .pdf's you received.
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I have removed the PDF with the list of names.
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I think this is a VERY good idea. OP, please remove the .pdf's you received.
Yes, please do, as their release violates the letter of MD Code, General Provisions, 4-325 (attached).
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Overturning denials 24% of the time for the past two years (total). I got denied yesterday and am appealing to the HPRB. That's discouraging.
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Overturning denials 24% of the time for the past two years (total). I got denied yesterday and am appealing to the HPRB. That's discouraging.
Wish you the best of luck. Worse case you could appeal their decision to the Circuit Court.
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Worse case you could appeal their decision to the Circuit Court.
That's another question I have. As a non-resident, in which Circuit Court would venue be appropriate?

For residents, it's their Circuit Court in their county of residence. For me, I'm not sure.
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That's another question I have. As a non-resident, in which Circuit Court would venue be appropriate?

For residents, it's their Circuit Court in their county of residence. For me, I'm not sure.
According to their website, "with the circuit court for the county where any party resides or has a principal place of business." I looked up some cases (I won't link because names) and I saw an out-of-state person file an appeal. (It was eventually dismissed.)
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I looked up some cases (I won't link because names) and I saw an out-of-state person file an appeal. (It was eventually dismissed.)
I think there's one where the appellant was from PA and he appealed to Baltimore County.
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Would this portion of the cited 4-325 relieve them of a violation?

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(c) This section may not be construed to prohibit the Department of State Police or the Department of Public Safety and
Correctional Services from accessing firearm or handgun records in the performance of that department's official duty.
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Would this portion of the cited 4-325 relieve them of a violation?

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(c) This section may not be construed to prohibit the Department of State Police or the Department of Public Safety and
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No. That applies to internal use. The ban on inspection is for public disclosure
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According to their website, "with the circuit court for the county where any party resides or has a principal place of business." I looked up some cases (I won't link because names) and I saw an out-of-state person file an appeal. (It was eventually dismissed.)
Is the location of any "party" which includes the Department of Public Safety and Correctional Services (DPSCS) of which the Board is a part. Handgun Permit Review Board 6776 Reisterstown Road
Suite 313
Baltimore, Maryland 21215
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Would it be worth while to ask for the results if informal reviews?
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I think there's one where the appellant was from PA and he appealed to Baltimore County.
Filing in Baltimore County was probably his first of many mistakes.

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