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Old July 26th, 2017, 09:14 AM #91
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Yeah, I know. I read every HPRB meeting post for the first year and took a little offense to cyber’s post. Good advice but I would prefer it to be the same “lack of” hoops to jump through for the entire nation, am I a rarity in this train of thought?


No offense meant at all cyberpunk, but ... reminds me of White (?) , trains people for the permit and denies appeals. My hope is that the second Amendment gives the people the right, promote the MD scheme and .... well ....

my $.02. Sorry if off topic.


Which part of which post offended you?
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I'm not IronPony , but the guess that comes to mind :

Working within the current scheme is a Bad Thing , because it lends an air of legitimacy to the current scheme. The only self-respecting approach is to go all 9 yards Pure 2A , and focus on nothing less than Shall Issue ( or perhaps Constitutional Carry ).

Kind of like mid 1800's Slavery Reformers vs All or Nothing Abolitionists .


Or I could be all wrong at mind reading.
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Exactly what Biggfoot says.

We are all on the same side so I hope these few posts bring us together better. Sorry I spelled your name wrong Cypher
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Yeah, I know. I read every HPRB meeting post for the first year and took a little offense to cyber’s post. Good advice but I would prefer it to be the same “lack of” hoops to jump through for the entire nation, am I a rarity in this train of thought?


No offense meant at all cyberpunk, but ... reminds me of White (?) , trains people for the permit and denies appeals. My hope is that the second Amendment gives the people the right, promote the MD scheme and .... well ....

my $.02. Sorry if off topic.


I think you misunderstood me.
I've not listened to HPRB meetings - I've attended many/most of them.

I'm in favor of constitutional carry. Non-prohibited domestic violence, crime victims and others should be able to carry immediately (even if only open carry) should they decide its necessary.

Nor should collectors, investors or inheritors have to take a gun safety class.

However, as an instructor I've come across too many people that have no good idea when it is lawful to use deadly force, as well as when and why it may not be a good idea. Those people risk danger to themselves and the community.

I'd like to see training incentivized, but not required.

Something like completion of a 16 hour safety and law course provides a lifetime Maryland Handgun Permit and a $400 state tax credit to cover the training costs.



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Any updates on this debacle? Any mention of it at the most recent HPRB meeting?
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Any updates on this debacle? Any mention of it at the most recent HPRB meeting?


No, and I wouldn't expect the board members to address it as they weren't the ones to divulge the information.


The problem was with DPSCS, want Secretary Moyer's email address?
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No, and I wouldn't expect the board members to address it as they weren't the ones to divulge the information.


The problem was with DPSCS, want Secretary Moyer's email address?
I have it. lol I just want to make sure all avenues have been thoroughly plowed clear before I begin to plow another.
I did not expect the board to explain it or take responsibility, because it is not their responsibility. I was just curious if the "talk on the street" would have made it to the board and maybe they would address is and advise people to direct their inquiries to the DPSCS.
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I have it. lol I just want to make sure all avenues have been thoroughly plowed clear before I begin to plow another.
I did not expect the board to explain it or take responsibility, because it is not their responsibility. I was just curious if the "talk on the street" would have made it to the board and maybe they would address is and advise people to direct their inquiries to the DPSCS.
Here is the response that MSI got to my letter.
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Here is the response that MSI got to my letter.


So they acknowledge the breach and say, "sorry"? That doesn't seem sufficient to me. Does it?


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