Which one cleans better? Ti-rant or Gemtech Multimount? Stainless or aluminum parts?
The Multimount is 7075 T6 aluminum with a titanium blast baffle. Full auto rated for 9mm and beliw. Also rated for subsonic 300blk. ( minimum 7.5" barrel length for this)
Extremely easy to takedown, clean and reconfigure. There are mounts available for basically everything including 3 lug and 1/2x36.
Seems like the Multimount or Ti-rant would both be excellent choices.
This, at this point I don't think a form 3 will clear before 41P takes effect.
If you don't have a .22 suppressor yet, get a user serviceable one. That can be used for .22.
I have a Gemtech Multimount and use it on 9mm carbines and pistols. Even after getting a .22 can, I still like to use it on .22 rifles. I recommend it highly. (If you can find one local)
The Tirant 45 is 5oz heavier than the Multimount. 13oz vs 8oz. That means a lot on the end of a pistol.
OK, I admit I haven't been following the 41P thing and search has me all over creation. What does it mean in a nut shell if you already have a trust?
I am thinking about an AR 15 9mm build (pistol/SBR). I want to suppress it. What do you like, what should I stay away from?
IPs, anything in stock? It would be great if I could skip the Form 3 wait time.
Thanks all.
What I get out of it is that if you purchase something after July 13th 2016 you will have to provide finger prints and picture and I believe that's for everyone associated with the trust. There is a thread on here that should answer most questions.
Yes but the Ti-rant is 13 with the mount. The multimount.is 8 without the mount. So basically both with mount weigh about the same.
Can the suppressors that have been discussed (Gemtech Multimount, Ti-rant 45, and SilencerCo Octane 9) all be used with both pistol and rifle?
Only with certain limited rifle calibers.
Any of them can be used with most popular centerfire pistol calibers (assuming that the caliber of the bullet is not larger than the bore of the suppressor - i.e. you can shoot anything smaller than a .45 through the TiRant 45 or the Octane 45, but not through the TiRant 9 or Octane 9 - those you need a caliber smaller than 9mm).
They can all be used with rimfire calibers, but those are VERY dirty and gunk up a suppressor fast so most people buy a dedicated rimfire suppressor. With the "user serviceable" pistol suppressors this is less of an issue, but it's still nice to have a dedicated rimfire can according to many people.
For rifle calibers - most of these (the Octane and Multimount for certain, not sure on the Ti-Rant) will handle SUBSONIC .300BLK fine as well. Other rifle calibers (including supersonic .300BLK) tend to have pressures that create enough muzzle blast to damage a suppressor built for a pistol caliber.
This is all through research on my part, and not directly first hand. My very first suppressor is an Octane 9 that I bought from Free State back in Jaunuary, so it's still in their safe waiting on the Form 4 to be approved. I am now also waiting on a Form 3 for a Rugged Surge 7.62. Then the wait for that Form 4 will start...
My planning was basically thus:
I bought the Octane first for two reasons. 1) because it was there, in stock, and I got a great deal, and 2) because it would allow me to suppress the most stuff - pistols, rimfire, and subsonic .300BLK while I waited for the process of buying the other cans to complete.
The next planned step was a rifle can, and then a rimfire can. The rifle can will be the Rugged Surge 7.62 as soon as the ATF gets off their collective behind, and I'm not holding my breath on that one. Then for a rimfire can I'm looking at either the SilencerCo Spectre II or the Dead Air Mask, and leaning a little toward the Dead Air. We'll see.
Only with certain limited rifle calibers.
Any of them can be used with most popular centerfire pistol calibers (assuming that the caliber of the bullet is not larger than the bore of the suppressor - i.e. you can shoot anything smaller than a .45 through the TiRant 45 or the Octane 45, but not through the TiRant 9 or Octane 9 - those you need a caliber smaller than 9mm).
They can all be used with rimfire calibers, but those are VERY dirty and gunk up a suppressor fast so most people buy a dedicated rimfire suppressor. With the "user serviceable" pistol suppressors this is less of an issue, but it's still nice to have a dedicated rimfire can according to many people.
For rifle calibers - most of these (the Octane and Multimount for certain, not sure on the Ti-Rant) will handle SUBSONIC .300BLK fine as well. Other rifle calibers (including supersonic .300BLK) tend to have pressures that create enough muzzle blast to damage a suppressor built for a pistol caliber.
This is all through research on my part, and not directly first hand. My very first suppressor is an Octane 9 that I bought from Free State back in Jaunuary, so it's still in their safe waiting on the Form 4 to be approved. I am now also waiting on a Form 3 for a Rugged Surge 7.62. Then the wait for that Form 4 will start...
My planning was basically thus:
I bought the Octane first for two reasons. 1) because it was there, in stock, and I got a great deal, and 2) because it would allow me to suppress the most stuff - pistols, rimfire, and subsonic .300BLK while I waited for the process of buying the other cans to complete.
The next planned step was a rifle can, and then a rimfire can. The rifle can will be the Rugged Surge 7.62 as soon as the ATF gets off their collective behind, and I'm not holding my breath on that one. Then for a rimfire can I'm looking at either the SilencerCo Spectre II or the Dead Air Mask, and leaning a little toward the Dead Air. We'll see.
I have the YHM QD Phantom .556 and Sceptre .22 on order. Now I'm interested in covering the bases for 9mm, .45mm, and .300 -- both pistol and rifle for these. Would the Octane 9 or 45 be best? Or the Ti-rant9 or Gemtech Multimount. Likely can't go wrong with any of these. They sure are expensive though.
I do like the ones that will last and be cleanable for a long period off time. I think steel baffles last longer.
BTW, I just love the advice that all of you provide. Really informative. I hesitate to mention names, lest someone gets left out. Anyway, thanks!
I have the YHM QD Phantom .556 and Sceptre .22 on order.
Now I'm interested in covering the bases for 9mm, .45mm, and .300 -- both pistol and rifle for these. Would the Octane 9 or 45 be best? Or the Ti-rant9 or Gemtech Multimount. Likely can't go wrong with any of these. They sure are expensive though.
I do like the ones that will last and be cleanable for a long period off time. I think steel baffles last longer.