Baltimore City Replica Gun Ban

sinobeat · Nov 4, 2016

Hi all, I'm usually pretty quiet on the forum most often reading posts. But, recently I started a blog about firearms and addressed the Baltimore City Replica Gun Ban bill that the city council just voted to move forward.

Let me know your thoughts, I plan on sending this to the city legislatures to help get it pushed back.

http://firearmsarefriends.blogspot.com/2016/11/baltimore-wants-to-ban-replica-guns.html

MSI issued a letter on this: https://www.marylandshallissue.org/jmain/documents/public/6-baltimore-replica-ordinance-msi-response/file

NRA has also issued a letter on this: https://www.marylandshallissue.org/jmain/documents/public/5-baltimore-replica-ordinance-nra-response/file

ComeGet · Nov 4, 2016

sinobeat said:
Hi all, I'm usually pretty quiet on the forum most often reading posts. But, recently I started a blog about firearms and addressed the Baltimore City Replica Gun Ban bill that the city council just voted to move forward.

Let me know your thoughts, I plan on sending this to the city legislatures to help get it pushed back.

http://firearmsarefriends.blogspot.com/2016/11/baltimore-wants-to-ban-replica-guns.html

MSI issued a letter on this: https://www.marylandshallissue.org/jmain/documents/public/6-baltimore-replica-ordinance-msi-response/file

NRA has also issued a letter on this: https://www.marylandshallissue.org/jmain/documents/public/5-baltimore-replica-ordinance-nra-response/file

I would say that's an understatement. :innocent0

sinobeat · Nov 4, 2016

Some of us like to keep our firearm ownership quiet

ComeGet · Nov 4, 2016

sinobeat said:
Some of us like to keep our firearm ownership quiet

Oh, no problem with that at all. Just thinking that two posts (at the time of my first post) in over six years qualifies for much more than just keeping quiet. All good.

Uncle Duke · Nov 4, 2016

What sorely needs to be banned in Baltimore City is any number of replica people, replica legislators, and one in particular replica state's attorney.

hillbilly grandpa · Nov 4, 2016

So what is the exact status, and what are the next steps in the process? What if collegues here--and BC residents in particular--made a show of force at various points in the process--in order to raise the visibility on this issue, demonstrate how stupid and financially disastrous this legislation is?

Given that we can anticipate an analog to this in Annapolis later this year, why don't we use this as a means to sharen our game plan in anticipation of the fight at the state level?

sinobeat · Nov 4, 2016

The City Council met in committee already on 10/31 to move this bill forward. They are currently amending the bill and will revote on it on 11/14. If the vote passes it will go to the mayor for to go into law on 12/5.

This is all happening pretty quickly. So, now is the time to reach out to City council members to make an impression. You can track the bill here: https://baltimore.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2840575&GUID=C68FF372-6696-437B-B4EE-27C0371C25C4&

Tungsten · Nov 4, 2016

The law is incredibly vague and scapegoats the responsibility of officers for proper force escalation onto victims of police shootings.

I don't fully understand that sentence. Are you implying that when a good-kid-about-to-go-to-college points a fake, yet realistic looking gun at a cop, and the kid then gets shot, that the blame should go on the officer as opposed to the future felon?

DC-W · Nov 4, 2016

Thanks so much for starting this thread!
That's a superb summary and article you've put together. Outstanding!

An amendment was added that apparently excludes training implements, paintball guns, and things "clearly marked" as toys, but the document doesn't seem available on the Council's website yet.
http://www.guns.com/2016/11/01/baltimores-replica-gun-ban-one-step-closer-to-reality/

A full vote on the bill is scheduled for December 5th.

thomfantomas · Nov 4, 2016

in the city! thats impossible..............NOT!

thomfantomas · Nov 4, 2016

with the direction the nations heading i wouldnt be surprised of taxing oxygen!

TopShelf · Nov 4, 2016

I expect the final bill on which they vote to be intentionally vague. Basically they want people to be afraid they may be breaking the law, and that way people will be scared to own anything that even closely resembles a gun.

Jaybeez · Nov 5, 2016

hillbilly grandpa said:
So what is the exact status, and what are the next steps in the process? What if collegues here--and BC residents in particular--made a show of force at various points in the process--in order to raise the visibility on this issue, demonstrate how stupid and financially disastrous this legislation is?

Given that we can anticipate an analog to this in Annapolis later this year, why don't we use this as a means to sharen our game plan in anticipation of the fight at the state level?

Great Suggestions! Also exactly what has been being done for the last 2 months.

Next steps, are a release of the work group edits from 10/31, a possible vote mid November, and a final vote would be early December.

DC-W said:
Thanks so much for starting this thread!
That's a superb summary and article you've put together. Outstanding!

An amendment was added that apparently excludes training implements, paintball guns, and things "clearly marked" as toys, but the document doesn't seem available on the Council's website yet.
http://www.guns.com/2016/11/01/baltimores-replica-gun-ban-one-step-closer-to-reality/

A full vote on the bill is scheduled for December 5th.

sinobeat said:
The City Council met in committee already on 10/31 to move this bill forward. They are currently amending the bill and will revote on it on 11/14. If the vote passes it will go to the mayor for to go into law on 12/5.

This is all happening pretty quickly. So, now is the time to reach out to City council members to make an impression. You can track the bill here: https://baltimore.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2840575&GUID=C68FF372-6696-437B-B4EE-27C0371C25C4&

The city solictor's office sent the committee a letter the day before the the 10/24 hearing... basicially affirming the NRA's points about federal law prohibiting a ban. To me it suggested they were considering a licensing scheme for bb guns, like the HQL.
No confirmation until the workgroup's revisions are posted.

5.56blaster · Nov 5, 2016

They need to ban the sale and use of democrats. It would be a start. They've done more damage over the last 50 years to Baltimore then anything else.

Not_an_outlaw · Nov 14, 2016

Today's Article.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-replica-guns-20161114-story.html

Is a BB gun a replica? Isn't it a BB gun?

danb · Nov 14, 2016

I read this passed. I have no words. Well just one. :asshat:

Doctor_M · Nov 15, 2016

Was there any doubt?? I'm sure that this will fix all of Baltimore's problems.

Guderian · Nov 15, 2016

I'm surprised MSI is the only party interested in opposing this. What about the airsoft and paintball people? What about the manufacturers? Who knew toys could be such a threat to public safety. Ridiculous.

redsandman6 · Nov 15, 2016

i haven't seen the language of the bill. but this just sounds silly. the fine is $250. do the parents pay the $250 when their 7 year old gets caught with one? i think this bill is more about, if we shoot you than you can't sue us because you were breaking the law. i cant get over the time that has been wasted on this. no of this reduces the amount of homicides or the number of shootings that happen every year. :facepalm:

WeaponsCollector · Nov 15, 2016

Stupid laws made by stupid people.

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