Any idea if there are enough threads in D cell tube to do it?
Form 1 $100 suppressor
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I think this was covered in the first few pages of this thread
Thanks, time to do some re-reading!
Weber
USMC
Yes. You can secure the baffle stack buy using a snap ring, set screws, or anything that holds it in place when the end caps are not connected.
What's your preferred method of doing this? I'm looking at making a 30 cal TI D cell can.
Weber
USMC
I don't have a preferred method, as i don't have a need to do so.
I have kicked around the idea of having a lightweight nut made to screw inside the can that the end caps would press up against, but still do not have a need to move forward.
The biggest reason I would try something like this is to use on different host, not calibers. Changing the 30 cal end cap to a 556 end cap would make very little difference that to me it's not worth the hassle.
Now let's say you have a 9mm pistol can that you want to use on both a pistol and an ar9. The pistol uses a booster but the rifle does not. The pistol barrel is threaded 1/2-28 and the ar9 is threaded 1/2-36.
To use this can on both hosts legally you would need to use an adapter. The thread protector would hold the internals of the can in place, and a booster would thread directly into it and onto the pistol's threaded barrel. For the rifle you would use an adapter that either directly threads onto the barrel of the ar9, or onto the QD of a brake or flash hider. The adapter would than thread into the thread protector that is keeping the internals secured into the can.
That would work on a D cell tube for that application.
- Feb 4, 2013
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Why is this?
There are commercial cans that have a baffle stack that comes out when you remove the end cap.
One of the .22 cans I looked at, and the Freedom Arms .45 can I am considering both do this.
Weber
USMC
Rules are different for us. Extra parts are a violation of law, it's best to be on the safe side.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
No extra parts. Unless you are taking about having multiple end caps.
Weber
USMC
Any part of a suppressor, end cap, thread protector, baffles, etc...
If it holds the internal parts together, you can't have an extra.
OrbitalEllipses
Ultimate Member
So I read the first page and didn't go past that...but how are y'all doing pistons for pistol cal cans on pistol hosts with a tilting barrel? Considering this option instead of buying a $600-800 can.
Weber
USMC
You use a booster/Nielsen device. Some commercial cans use them as well, some have them built in.
The gem tech, Liberty, and Thompson all screw directly into the SDTA B tube or use and adapter for a D tube.
OrbitalEllipses
Ultimate Member
Right...I have an Osprey and some pistons I'd like to re-use. Is that an option?
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
Then why do you need to hold the baffles in when the end cap is off?
How about the commercial ones that have different end caps for different calibers?
Weber
USMC
I don't think so, but could be wrong.
Weber
USMC
Lol, I don't make the rules I just follow them.
If you have an extra part (end cap) then you are violating the law.
Most commercial cans that have that option do not hold the baffles in place with the end cap.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
The ones I have seen do. You remove the end cap, tilt and the baffles fall out.
But there is one commercial can that has different ends for different calibers. But it may not actually be the end cap, but a piece that just changes the size of the hole.
But there is one commercial can that has different ends for different calibers. But it may not actually be the end cap, but a piece that just changes the size of the hole.
getting ready to do my form 1's. 9mm can for ar, and 45 can for pistol and 458socom subsonic only.
How can I figure out how beefy the 45 can should be?
Also- I am using the 45 on a sig 220, I know they need an odd piston/neilson device. How do I chose one of those for a form 1 build?
How can I figure out how beefy the 45 can should be?
Also- I am using the 45 on a sig 220, I know they need an odd piston/neilson device. How do I chose one of those for a form 1 build?
Weber
USMC
I would go with a D cell for 45, but some people have used a B.
You need to get a gem tech, Liberty, or Thompson booster. All of these have the same threads that will work with the SDTA tubes and adapters.
md_al
Active Member
You may get away using one Gemtech LID for your 45 and 9mm AR. You will need a extra piston and a PBT(Piston blocking tube) which replaces the spring converting the Gemtech LID to a fixed mount. The LID is threaded for a B-tube.
On the other hand if you use a D tube you can attach a D- size Gemtech Lid /Liberty Suppressor Recoil Booster Rear Thread Protector (SDTA) to hold the suppressor innards in place and legally switch LIDs with fixed mounts.
Liberty suppressors only sells fixed mounts and LIDs. I don't think they have a PBT. Gemtech has LIDs, fixed mounts and PBTs.
