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  • TapRackBang

    Cheaper Than Diamonds
    Jan 14, 2012
    1,919
    Bel Air
    I see a lot of speculation about what Obama "will do", yet nothing about what he "has done". Obama has signed a law that allows guns to be carried in the national parks, and he’s signed a bill that allows handguns to be checked and stored in baggage on AMTRAK. Why would he do that if he's so anti gun?

    To lull you into a false sense of security so you'll think he's not anti-gun and ease his reelection campaign?

    Seems to have worked too. Do you remember who his Attorney General (the top LEO in the country) is?
    When the Top Cop has openly voiced and demonstrated contempt for the Constitution he swore to uphold, beware the man who appointed him.
     
    Oct 27, 2008
    8,444
    Dundalk, Hon!
    I see a lot of speculation about what Obama "will do", yet nothing about what he "has done". Obama has signed a law that allows guns to be carried in the national parks, and he’s signed a bill that allows handguns to be checked and stored in baggage on AMTRAK. Why would he do that if he's so anti gun?

    Allowing the peasants to be armed in national parks and to check guns on AMTRAK are cheap, unimportant concessions. The overall effect is nil but it makes him look "pro 2nd Amendment". I'm pretty sure both statutes can be nullified under the NDAA.

    Something he hasn't but should do is start piling up heads on his desk, starting with his Attorney General's, over the Fast & Furious debacle. Clinton failed in this after Waco too.

    I think you're saying there haven't been any huge anti-gun power grabs recently, so what are we worried about? What you fail to see is the thousands of tiny chips that were taken out of the right to keep and bear arms for many years, the ones that were overshadowed by the Acts of 1934, 1968, the AWB, etc. We're rolling them back, but the worst thing we can do now is let up the pressure. The second worse thing we can do is try to lull gun rights supporters into a false sense of security.
     

    JMangle

    Handsome Engineer
    May 11, 2008
    816
    Mississippi
    Back when I really started getting into guns in the early 1980's you could buy a very nice and new 45cal Thomson Sub machine gun full auto for around $1500 if my memory serves. After they passed the ban the old guns you can by now cost a small fortune that most people can't afford.



    .

    Why did you not buy these by the car-load, lol.

    Anywho, the pre-election panic has put a damper on my gun and ammo buying. Del-ton is sold out of rifle kits, which means I need to think up a new birthday gift for the girlfriend.

    And as for choosing between two evils -- why do they have to be THIS BAD?
     

    Merlin

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 31, 2009
    3,953
    Carroll County, Maryland
    Why did you not buy these by the car-load, lol.

    Anywho, the pre-election panic has put a damper on my gun and ammo buying. Del-ton is sold out of rifle kits, which means I need to think up a new birthday gift for the girlfriend.

    And as for choosing between two evils -- why do they have to be THIS BAD?

    I thought they would always be available. Also $1500 was allot of money for me back then. $1500 is allot of money for me now.
     

    LongTom

    Active Member
    Jan 13, 2010
    220
    Southern Maryland
    I'm going to tell all of you something right now. Firearms bans and restrictions WAS on Mr Obama's agenda just after his election. He had it posted right on his website.

    His advisers told him to curb the controversial stuff UNTIL HIS SECOND TERM, including his VERY controversial attack directly against our Bill of Rights, calling it a "Bill of Non-Rights." That was hushed up FAST. You see, folks, a president in their second term doesn't have to worry about pesky little things like popular opinion, gallup polls, and such.

    If he's elected for a second term, God help us all. It doesn't matter if you're a democrat or a republican, that socialist budget destroyer, known as ObamaCare, will seem like small potatoes when we see what he's going to pull out of his magic hat of power and infinite make-believe money the Fed gave him.

    When a president puts on his monarch crown, rendering YOUR duly elected officials useless by going over their heads to get what he wants, dictator style, it foretells some pretty drastic things to come, especially considering a new-and-improved Patriot Act and National Defense Authorization Act.

    I wish Ron Paul could secure more delegates.
     

    Merlin

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 31, 2009
    3,953
    Carroll County, Maryland
    I'm going to tell all of you something right now. Firearms bans and restrictions WAS on Mr Obama's agenda just after his election. He had it posted right on his website.

    His advisers told him to curb the controversial stuff UNTIL HIS SECOND TERM, including his VERY controversial attack directly against our Bill of Rights, calling it a "Bill of Non-Rights." That was hushed up FAST. You see, folks, a president in their second term doesn't have to worry about pesky little things like popular opinion, gallup polls, and such.

    If he's elected for a second term, God help us all. It doesn't matter if you're a democrat or a republican, that socialist budget destroyer, known as ObamaCare, will seem like small potatoes when we see what he's going to pull out of his magic hat of power and infinite make-believe money the Fed gave him.

    When a president puts on his monarch crown, rendering YOUR duly elected officials useless by going over their heads to get what he wants, dictator style, it foretells some pretty drastic things to come, especially considering a new-and-improved Patriot Act and National Defense Authorization Act.

    I wish Ron Paul could secure more delegates.

    Completely agree. This president would be dangerous if he gets his 2nd term
     

    WeaponsCollector

    EXTREME GUN OWNER
    Mar 30, 2009
    12,120
    Southern MD
    I'm going to tell all of you something right now. Firearms bans and restrictions WAS on Mr Obama's agenda just after his election. He had it posted right on his website.

    His advisers told him to curb the controversial stuff UNTIL HIS SECOND TERM, including his VERY controversial attack directly against our Bill of Rights, calling it a "Bill of Non-Rights." That was hushed up FAST. You see, folks, a president in their second term doesn't have to worry about pesky little things like popular opinion, gallup polls, and such.

    If he's elected for a second term, God help us all. It doesn't matter if you're a democrat or a republican, that socialist budget destroyer, known as ObamaCare, will seem like small potatoes when we see what he's going to pull out of his magic hat of power and infinite make-believe money the Fed gave him.

    When a president puts on his monarch crown, rendering YOUR duly elected officials useless by going over their heads to get what he wants, dictator style, it foretells some pretty drastic things to come, especially considering a new-and-improved Patriot Act and National Defense Authorization Act.

    I wish Ron Paul could secure more delegates.

    Ron Paul? That crazy old kook who actually believes in smaller government and more freedom for the individual?
    Would be nice but sadly he's totally unelectable.
    It's either Romney or the present authoritarian.
     

    Merlin

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 31, 2009
    3,953
    Carroll County, Maryland
    Ron Paul? That crazy old kook who actually believes in smaller government and more freedom for the individual?
    Would be nice but sadly he's totally unelectable.
    It's either Romney or the present authoritarian.


    As a government worker let me tell you about the campaign phrase "Smaller government" that comes out of all of the politicians mouth when trying to get elected.

    They never say cheaper government do they. They say smaller government. They say smaller government because they know when the taxpayer hears that phrase coming out of their mouths they think it directly relates to a less costly government. But let me tell you the complete opposites happens.

    Over the last 15 years the gov has been cut way back in many areas. So who do you think does that needed work the gov employees did at one time? CONTRACTORS!

    Working in a project planing office working for the Army I see contractors over charging the gov everyday for work that at one time cost 60% less when gov workers were doing the same work. When Contractors do a bad job at whatever they were hired for, the gov just hires them back to do the same work over again where they get paid again.

    So when you hear these politicians tell you all of the great things they have planed for you, you need to be able to read between the lines and figure out what it really means.

    Obama now every time you see him on TV he is saying that he does not see why the rich should pay less tax then the poor. Besides being inaccurate he leave everyone with the idea that he is going to change it all. I call it the Robin hood campaign where he plants the seed that he is going to steel from the rich and give to the poor.

    But he never tells the US tax payer what he plans on doing to change anything, because he is not planning to change anything with it comes to how much the rich pay in taxes. It's just an easy and effect way of buying votes from the people who do not know any better.

    Also consider this president has raised more money then any other president in history. That money does not come from poor people. It comes from the very rich that know he is not planning to get on cent more out of them then they are paying now.

    Claimed of smaller government is the same kind of misdirection. Smaller government has ALWAYS cost the US tax payer more then ever. With smaller gov you just need to hire more contractors. It's contractors that write the big checks that are paid to the politicians on the golf course. Politicians do not get big payoff checks from gov workers.
     

    CPT Ethanolic

    Gun Packing Liberal
    Also consider this president has raised more money then any other president in history. That money does not come from poor people. It comes from the very rich that know he is not planning to get on cent more out of them then they are paying now.

    .

    This is 100% correct - and why I laugh at people who call Obama a socialist. The guy is 100% corporatist. Go look at his advisers - all Goldman Sachs. The "Jobs Bill" farce was nothing but a massive repeal of regulations meant to limit banks gambling with our money like they did leading up to the 2008 crash. I have a lot of criticism for Obama - but NONE of it has to do with him being a 'socialist'.
     

    pcfixer

    Ultimate Member
    May 24, 2009
    5,948
    Marylandstan
    This is 100% correct - and why I laugh at people who call Obama a socialist. The guy is 100% corporatist. Go look at his advisers - all Goldman Sachs. The "Jobs Bill" farce was nothing but a massive repeal of regulations meant to limit banks gambling with our money like they did leading up to the 2008 crash. I have a lot of criticism for Obama - but NONE of it has to do with him being a 'socialist'.

    http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm

    Neo Marxist is a better word that "socialist"!!
     

    WatTyler

    Ultimate Member
    Whatever the reason, anything that stimulates gun sales is, ultimately, good. When Admiral Yamamoto's prophesy of "a rifle behind every blade of grass" is realized, citizens will be safe from our enemies. Foreign - and domestic.
     

    TapRackBang

    Cheaper Than Diamonds
    Jan 14, 2012
    1,919
    Bel Air
    I'm going to tell all of you something right now. Firearms bans and restrictions WAS on Mr Obama's agenda just after his election. He had it posted right on his website.

    I decided to see if I could find a citation for this. Internet Archive to the rescue:
    Address Gun Violence in Cities: As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama also favors commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. He supports closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. He also supports making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

    From: http://web.archive.org/web/20080731...issues/urbanpolicy/#crime-and-law-enforcement

    Go here, pick a year, then pick a day and you can see what his website said on that day:
    http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://www.barackobama.com

    Unless Mitt pulls a rabbit out of his... hat, we are in deep doo-doo. :sad20:
    Must buy more guns, must buy more guns, must buy more guns...
     

    JMangle

    Handsome Engineer
    May 11, 2008
    816
    Mississippi
    I see a lot of speculation about what Obama "will do", yet nothing about what he "has done". Obama has signed a law that allows guns to be carried in the national parks, and he’s signed a bill that allows handguns to be checked and stored in baggage on AMTRAK. Why would he do that if he's so anti gun?

    Because they were tagged onto bills that he wanted. (Credit card bills, if memory serves.)

    I think the real danger of an anti-gun president is their choice for the Supreme Court. Look at Obama's appointments. If (dear God forbid) one of our 5 dies, we've lost the ability to win at that level.
     

    Sev89

    Dreams about cheese
    Nov 4, 2010
    2,097
    Anatomy Park
    http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/wa.../democrats-oppose-obama-un-gun-control-treaty

    Both Hillary and Obama DO intend on signing the UN Small Arms gun treaty!

    Can only legally be done if ratified by the senate. I'd certainly hope those goons value their jobs enough to block any attempts by Hillary or 'bozo to sign it. Anybody know the chances of the republicans gaining senate majority? If they retain congress and gain the senate, then wouldn't they have the muscle needed to impeach dear leader?
     

    pcfixer

    Ultimate Member
    May 24, 2009
    5,948
    Marylandstan
    I'm going to tell all of you something right now. Firearms bans and restrictions WAS on Mr Obama's agenda just after his election. He had it posted right on his website.

    His advisers told him to curb the controversial stuff UNTIL HIS SECOND TERM, including his VERY controversial attack directly against our Bill of Rights, calling it a "Bill of Non-Rights." That was hushed up FAST. You see, folks, a president in their second term doesn't have to worry about pesky little things like popular opinion, gallup polls, and such.

    If he's elected for a second term, God help us all. It doesn't matter if you're a democrat or a republican, that socialist budget destroyer, known as ObamaCare, will seem like small potatoes when we see what he's going to pull out of his magic hat of power and infinite make-believe money the Fed gave him.

    When a president puts on his monarch crown, rendering YOUR duly elected officials useless by going over their heads to get what he wants, dictator style, it foretells some pretty drastic things to come, especially considering a new-and-improved Patriot Act and National Defense Authorization Act.

    I wish Ron Paul could secure more delegates.

    Yep...^^ I agree^^:thumbsup:
     

    P-12 Norm

    Why be normal?
    Sep 9, 2009
    1,618
    Bowie, MD
    I have to agree with CPT. I think the majority of the fear is being whipped up by the companies selling guns and ammo and the materials used to make them. Fear = big bucks for them.

    Conjecture only. No supporting evidence.

    The buying frenzy I see at Realco is 1) Fear on the increasing crime rate becoming personal and 2) Fear that the Gubmint WILL restrict ownership and wanting to get in under the wire.

    People in the USA are, by their nature, distrustful of the government, and do not want to be restricted from the use of the best tools of their defense.
     

    LongTom

    Active Member
    Jan 13, 2010
    220
    Southern Maryland
    This is 100% correct - and why I laugh at people who call Obama a socialist. The guy is 100% corporatist. Go look at his advisers - all Goldman Sachs. The "Jobs Bill" farce was nothing but a massive repeal of regulations meant to limit banks gambling with our money like they did leading up to the 2008 crash. I have a lot of criticism for Obama - but NONE of it has to do with him being a 'socialist'.

    I beg to differ, sir. Many (many!) of the people he has appointed are either self proclaimed socialists or directly involved with other self proclaimed socialists. I could fill up this post to the word count limit with information on that. Obama himself admits that he "used to be a socialist."
     

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