How CZ Lost My Respect
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Czechnologist
Concerned Citizen
- Mar 9, 2016
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No, there wasn't.
In the interest of transparency, this is the copy of the e-mail from CZ-USA:
As 'W' so eloquently put it:
Czechnologist
Concerned Citizen
- Mar 9, 2016
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Well, CZ-USA doesn't think you should be. Heck, they think you should be thrilled to own such an exclusive, limited edition collectible that's not only one of the most limited CZ P-01's ever produced (LMAO) but the only CZ ever made with slide rollmarks produced by their super-duper top secret laser auto-pencil, representing the very cutting-edge of Czech-Slovak technology.
Well, CZ-USA doesn't think you should be. Heck, they think you should be thrilled to own such an exclusive, limited edition collectible that's not only one of the most limited CZ P-01's ever produced (LMAO) but the only CZ ever made with slide rollmarks produced by their super-duper top secret laser auto-pencil, representing the very cutting-edge of Czech-Slovak technology.
Yeah, I you should be so lucky!
Czechnologist
Concerned Citizen
- Mar 9, 2016
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You gotta love that response from CZ-USA. "Yeah, we knew it really wasn't stainless steel but, hey, look at how limited and collectible it is anyway!"
$20 says they'll 'find' another 'rare' batch of them before the end of the year. Hopefully, they'll label them as nickel-plated instead of stainless.
You gotta love that response from CZ-USA. "Yeah, we knew it really wasn't stainless steel but, hey, look at how limited and collectible it is anyway!"
$20 says they'll 'find' another 'rare' batch of them before the end of the year. Hopefully, they'll label them as nickel-plated instead of stainless.
And that will make those ultra rare and collectible!
The money just prints itself!
Boats
Broken Member
Mossberg did this with their JIC Shockwave. It is marketed as a stainless gun until you find out it is stainless cerakote
Czechnologist
Concerned Citizen
- Mar 9, 2016
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The stainless P-01 owner I know followed-up the response (above) from CZ-USA with a very polite 'thank you but you didn't answer my question' e-mail to the same rep and he received this response:
He also told me that prior to getting booted-off CZ-FOG (Firearms Owners Group) on FB, he heard from another owner who claimed he had received a full refund from CZ-USA after sending his 'stainless' P-01 back to them about a month ago. While I find that somewhat hard to believe, I think it's the least CZ-USA should do for the 200 or so schmucks who bought them thinking they were really stainless steel.
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He also told me that prior to getting booted-off CZ-FOG (Firearms Owners Group) on FB, he heard from another owner who claimed he had received a full refund from CZ-USA after sending his 'stainless' P-01 back to them about a month ago. While I find that somewhat hard to believe, I think it's the least CZ-USA should do for the 200 or so schmucks who bought them thinking they were really stainless steel.
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Czechnologist
Concerned Citizen
- Mar 9, 2016
- 6,531
Yeah, I won't do business with companies that pull that BS. I like my CZ's and shoot them a lot but, they don't make anything I can't live without.
Czechnologist
Concerned Citizen
- Mar 9, 2016
- 6,531
I received a PM on the CZ Forum from the 'stainless steel' P-01-owner that has promised to keep us updated on what, if anything, CZ-USA is willing to do for him and other owners who were misled into believing they were buying a real stainless steel pistol:
More to come...
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Butcher
Active Member
This is quite possibly the dumbest reason to lose respect for a gun maker. I’ll do you a favor and buy your CZs at a huge discount since you don’t like them anymore lol
Czechnologist
Concerned Citizen
- Mar 9, 2016
- 6,531
Thank you for your unsolicited opinion. Kindly point-out where I said I didn't like them? You can like a company's products and not respect that company. I have no intention of parting with any of the CZ pistols I already own - so you can go pound sand and take a remedial course in reading comprehension while you're at it.
But, I'm glad you're OK with companies that blatantly and intentionally misrepresent their products.
Butcher
Active Member
I’ve lurked here plenty and been here long before you, so i know you don’t mind giving unsolicited opinions. Figured you’d like a dose of your own medication. CZ is a stalwart supporter of 2A and will never lose my respect for that reason. You on the other hand lose respect for suggesting they’re not worthy because one gun’s finish isn’t perfect and then went all snowflake on a web forum to a stranger. I had a CZ 97 once that the bushing walked out under fire and caused the gun to seize up. I needed warranty repair and CZ fixed it, no questions asked. Did I trust the gun anymore? No. Did i immediately sell it? Yes. Do I still respect CZUB/CZUSA, of course. Do I go cry about it on a public forum and make a virtue signaling post about how I’ll never patronize the company again, no.
Aamdskeetshooter
Ultimate Member
Go back to lurking because you don’t know what you’re talking about. CZ lied about the guns. They marketed them as stainless steel. They’re not. They’re nickel plated to look like stainless steel. That’s fraud. So you’re defending the company for committing fraud?
Edited to add. And they only admitted it when the guns started to have a problem with the plating coming off.
Czechnologist
Concerned Citizen
- Mar 9, 2016
- 6,531
That's great that you're fine with a manufacturer intentionally misrepresenting an item they're selling and then telling customers that they were lucky to get them when they found-out.
But I'd be happy to sell you a CZ Shadow 5000 which looks just like a CZ-75 but is actually an uber-secret future release, with 'Special Gullible Customer Edition' electro-penciled on the slide so you can show it off to all your friends. It'll be a bargain at $1000.
Sorry to break your bubble but, there are no merit badges for number of years lurked.
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Did you get a final, verified story on which part of the national or domestic CZ distribution or retail food chain actually commissioned these, and labeled them? I don't recall seeing that actually described in no uncertain terms. They're obviously starting to take care of people on it, but I haven't yet seen any indication that the factory actually set out to deliberately misrepresent the item. Do you have that scoop yet?
BMore
Active Member
Thanks Zzzzz man for posting information on this. I like CZ guns, but it is unsusceptible that these guns were marketed and sold.
Czechnologist
Concerned Citizen
- Mar 9, 2016
- 6,531
CZ-USA isn't exactly being forthright. If I interpret their actions correctly, it's kind of like, 'Oops, we goofed, sorry about that but, you should be thrilled to own such a limited edition firearm even if it isn't made out of what we said it was made out of..." as the initial response to customer's complaints about being misled. We may never find-out who actually commissioned them but, CZ-USA seems eager to resolve the issue with dissatisfied customers.
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