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Old October 4th, 2016, 04:01 PM #1
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Angry Montoya Hearing Deliberation Audio-Shocking!

I have been sitting on this for some time. Most of you know my journey from wear and carry application, denial, informal command review, permit issuance and my appeal to remove my restrictions.

Permit Journey


Hearing Results

The board members at the time of my hearing were as follows:

Robert Wilson- Chairman
Courtney White- Owner of IOTA Firearms Training
Patty West- Owner of B&S Personal Safety And Firearms Education, LLC.
Dick Jurgena- Subsequently rejected by the senate confirmation committee.

To fill in some spaces. My case was conducted in an unorthodox 2 part hearing. There were SEVERAL errors and violations made. SEVERAL! Here is a very short summary:

1. Courtney White, owner of IOTA Firearms Training(no longer on the board) recused herself in public due to a "conflict" (I had her and her husband conduct a UTAH permit class for myself and several others several years ago). She then proceeded to be extremely vocal behind closed doors.

2. Neither myself or my attorney, were afforded the opportunity to attend the closed session. This was brought to our attention immediately after the meeting by none other than Russell Neverdon, HPRB administrator.

3. Russell Neverdon, participated in the deliberations. He explicitly explained to my attorney and I that his ONLY job is to assist in the operational aspects of the HPRB meetings and is not to participate. He is there to facilitate and assist with opening and closing the building, delivering files and other administrative tasks.

4. My hearing was limited to 30 minutes even though, at the time, there was no policy or statute that required a time limit. Other applicants after myself were afforded upwards of 2 hours.

In addition, after the hearing, my attorney and I discovered that the board could revisit ANY decision if they so felt compelled to do so. My attorney, on two occasions. One in hand writing at a HPRB meeting and another time officially via certified mail, requested a reconsideration. The chairman publicly acknowledged that my case and that of Gryphon would be reheard. Gryphon has received his hearing, I have not. This promise to rehear my case caused my attorney to allow a petition for administrative relief to expire in the Baltimore County courts. This would have compelled the board to vacate their decision and rehear my case.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3qdvcwbktt...tions.wav?dl=0


Again, I want to thank all those who supported my attempts to expose the faults in the permitting process and specifically the restrictions placed on them.
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Old October 4th, 2016, 04:20 PM #2
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You are certainly a freedom fighter, sir, although not every battle is won.
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Comrade Montoya: please to be understanding People's Tribunal very much to help you, with people's workers all knowing permit is wanting for you. Democrat Workers Party Comrade Neverdon being at desks almost all times for people's request to be known to dedicated comrades wishing great happiness and destiny to you !
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wow Tim. what a journey.

thanks for your efforts.
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WTH is with the laughing i don't find any of this to be funny. Very unprofessional. i couldn't listen to the whole thing because they sounded like a bunch of jerks.
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Comrade Montoya: please to be understanding People's Tribunal very much to help you, with people's workers all knowing permit is wanting for you. Democrat Workers Party Comrade Neverdon being at desks almost all times for people's request to be known to dedicated comrades wishing great happiness and destiny to you !
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Holy bombshell, Batman!


The level of sheer ignorance exhibited by White, West and Neverdon is mind boggling. No wonder the two women would barely open their mouths during open session as the public would see exactly how void of knowledge they are about a subject in which they are trained instructors.

Thanks for making this public, if I were you I would bitch loud and long until you get another bite at the apple.
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I guess my definition of recusal has been wrong for years..
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Wow. Just wow.

We should call the Governor!
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Tim let me hear this a while ago and it pissed me off beyond words.

Yay! Everyone rally around those HPR Board Members! They are on our side (When speaking in public).

They are no better than Frosh and Omalley in my eyes.

Nothing like makimg money to train people to carry guns and then thinking no one else should carry.

I think there is a word for that...
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