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Old December 6th, 2018, 11:17 AM #281
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It looks like an ERPO can be submitted because you unlawfully, recklessly or negligently store your firearms. That according to part 3 on the form. I wonder who determines that? The petitioner? WOW.
Very legit question. So now if someone feels uncomfortable with the way you are storing your firearms they can come and take all of your stuff. I'm dumbfounded!

That's not going to be abused!
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The only thing I could find is "It is unlawful to store or leave a loaded firearm where a person knows or should know that an unsupervised person under 16 could gain access to it." Assuming that gun owner would store their property per the law, I don't think they would win the case.
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The only thing I could find is "It is unlawful to store or leave a loaded firearm where a person knows or should know that an unsupervised person under 16 could gain access to it." Assuming that gun owner would store their property per the law, I don't think they would win the case.
True...

I know of one person ... not a Maryland resident ... who thinks it proper to leave their loaded pistol in plain view on the top of their refrigerator ... with kids in the house. That situation would likely apply in the case of this law.
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dammit, my neighbor has kids taller than my fridge and at times my door is unlocked while I'm there. sarcasm
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I thought I'd post up what the actual ERPO looks like. Look at the disclaimer at the bottom of page 2. Penalty of perjury and good faith all in the same sentence. What a crock....
The only part of that form that should exist is the RESET button at the bottom of the page. Reset MD back to a Constitutional State please.

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I know of one person ... not a Maryland resident ... who thinks it proper to leave their loaded pistol in plain view on the top of their refrigerator ... with kids in the house. That situation would likely apply in the case of this law.
Honest question here, in Maryland much of the legislation treats airsoft and bb guns as real firearms does it apply to those items as well?
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Honest question here, in Maryland much of the legislation treats airsoft and bb guns as real firearms
What legislation are you referring to?

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does it apply to those items as well?
No.

The ERPO law says:
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(d) “Firearm” has the meaning stated in § 5–101 of this title.
If we look at MD PSC §5–101, it says:

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(h) (1) “Firearm” means:

(i) a weapon that expels, is designed to expel, or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; or

(ii) the frame or receiver of such a weapon.

(2) “Firearm” includes a starter gun.
Neither an Airsoft nor BB gun is "a weapon that expels, is designed to expel, or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive" so they are not covered by this law.
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Another great video that outlines the danger of these Red Flag Laws.

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Questions 5 & 6 on that form are interesting. If the Protective/Peace orders referenced in the request had any Firearms constraints, those orders have other mechanisms for enforcement and should not, in this layperson's opinion, be used as grounds for an ERPO. I don't have the ERPO legislation memorized, so I have some research to do on what I think are overreaching issues regarding alcohol and other drugs posed in questions 7 & 8.
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So, is the Left measuring the success of this travesty by the number of actions filed?

If that's the metric, then they'll have 100% success when 100% of gun owners are disarmed.

I can hear the antis cheering and back-slapping.

How many "extreme risks" even exist at one time? Wouldn't we have heard about the blood in the streets, with an abrupt end now?

How many ERPO's are being served where the real volume of shootings take place, eg Baltimore and PG?
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