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  • joppaj

    Sheepdog
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    Apr 11, 2008
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    You guys really aren't making this easy. Who has an Endura? Those look sweet and a good deal at about $65. I can see where this is going. I'm going to have about a dozen knives showing up at my door in the next week or so!

    A fully serrated Endura has been my edc for well over a year now. It replaced a Police 3 that was just too heavy for carrying clipped onto my pocket. I have 3 Enduras, including a limited edition model that had a "Glock Armorer's Tool" built into the handle.
     

    MattTheGunslinger

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    Jul 26, 2010
    1,373
    Baltimore county
    Joppa, that is awesome! That would be great having a Glock tool built in! Ok. It's settled. Endura full serrated for work, Manix 2 XL for EDC, the military and para military...just because. Why do Spydercos have to be so addicting.
     

    joppaj

    Sheepdog
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    I have something like 13 of them, I can't answer your question. :-)
     

    alucard0822

    For great Justice
    Oct 29, 2007
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    Ok, I hate you all. I was only going to buy one knife, but now I want all of these knives! Looking at all the choices, I think I am leaning towards the Manix 2 XL. I like that it has the lock similar to the Benchmade knives, but not the price, and its still pretty large. Another plus for Spyderco is the spyder hole. To me, that is much more comfortable than the thumb studs. I also like the idea of getting a dedicated serrated knife and carrying that also. You guys are really a bad influence. The Military is still on my list of wants though. That knife just looks sexy.

    I have come to love leaf/mod sheepsfoot/rev tanto blades, the low edge placement just punks most every other blade shape there is for daily tasks. And agree thumb holes > any protruding opening hardware, doesn't get in the way of cutting, and near impossible to slip out of a hole compared to slipping off a thumbstud. Some of my favorite are a couple benchmades that borrow HEAVILY from spyderco though, the new 808 is near perfection for a big tough folder, the 550HG has an official licensed spyderhole and awesome modified sheepsfoot blade with a thin hollow ground edge. Pairing a small inexpensive serrated knife like the salt1 or saver works out great, use it for the tasks it excells at, and keep your fancy plain edge sharp and damage free for when you need it. the saver with it's blunt tip and straight edge works awesome if you need to cut stuff near skin, or cutting open plastic packages, the serrations run to a tooth at the tip which digs in easily, and with the blade shape and big thumb stop you can put a lot of power into the cut without slipping.
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    joppaj

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    Alucard, is that a salt1 with the G27? Looks identical to the 79mm Rescue, just the H1 steel is different.
     

    alucard0822

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    Alucard, is that a salt1 with the G27? Looks identical to the 79mm Rescue, just the H1 steel is different.

    Salt saver, basically it is a 79mm rescue in H1 instead of VG10. Not only is it cheaper, but for a serrated blade the steel is an improvement IMO, Sal(spyderco owner and knife geek) says in plain edge it is rustproof and tough, but has ordinary hardness, wear and edge stability, but in serrated edges it has performance rivaling supersteels, out performing almost everything else, mostly due to work hardening by grinding the serrated pattern in. Never had VG10 or H1 rust, but have had VG10 chip, which H1 seems extremely resistant to, the stuff can basically fold in half, or get smacked with a hammer without chipping or breaking, like I posted before, I've never sharpened it, just straighten the rolled edge, and bent teeth if I do something stupid to it, then strop it, and it's like new. My old Rescue in Aus-8 chipped most of the teeth over a few year span in the shop, sawed through everything with it, ended up grinding an edge into it to open packages and cut stuff at work, looks like hell, but still holding up to abuse near 20 years after I bought it. Chipped teeth and a point on an old Native 3 too, although the VG10 was tougher, and harder, the H1 seems to roll the edge or bend the teeth points perhaps a hair easier than VG10, but never chip, and it's so easy to fix by steeling or stropping, it seems to last forvever. Without serrations to protect the edge or harden it in H1's case I would go with VG10, it takes a wonderful edge and reportedly resists wear and rolling better than H1

    this was an H1 test blade supposedly clamped in a vise and bent to 90 degrees without breaking and springing back most of the way, it is impressive stuff, the fact it is cheap and rustproof make it even more appealing
     

    alucard0822

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    Now I need a new knife...

    Will probably get the tasman too, a serrated hawkbill in this stuff should be epic for some uses.

    Although have been eying the Tuff for a while, finally can be found for under $200, and they are listing it as a closeout, so might be out of production soon, CPM 3V is in a different league than other steels when it comes to toughness and resisting edge damage. It really is an addiction.

     

    joppaj

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    Will probably get the tasman too, a serrated hawkbill in this stuff should be epic for some uses.

    Although have been eying the Tuff for a while, finally can be found for under $200, and they are listing it as a closeout, so might be out of production soon, CPM 3V is in a different league than other steels when it comes to toughness and resisting edge damage. It really is an addiction.



    I didn't realize the Tuff was now a closeout. I'll need to get that before they're out of production.
     

    Crawls

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    Apr 2, 2011
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    Talk me into or out of this knife. It will be my first (most likely only) USA made Spyderco. I have the Tenacious and I freaking LOVE that knife! Is the Military worth the price? I really like the length of this knife just in case it was needed for self defense. I understand the tip is rather thin, but I don't ever pry with my knives that shouldn't be an issue. I need a knife to cut rope, heavy plastic sheets/tarps, wood(NOT batoning with it), and tons of cardboard. It will be used at work and in the woods around the campsite. $140 is a lot for a pocket knife and I would really like to hear from you guys if this knife is truly up to these tasks. Thanks all!

    Back to the original question: I have a military and love it. It was my second Spyderco after the tenacious. I think of it as my folding chefs knife. Mine is the CTS-XHP sprint run with the coyote G10 scales. It is thin and light so (unlike a previous poster) I think it disappears in the pocket. The blade has a bit more belly than some of the other knifes mentioned like the Endura and Manix, so it seems perfect for slicing chores and the large handle works well when wearing gloves.
    Most Spydercos seem pretty well thought out knives, so it is hard to go wrong.
     

    MattTheGunslinger

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    Jul 26, 2010
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    Well, I went to Trop Gun Shop yesterday and WOW did they grow up!! That place is huge now. Anyway, I got to hold the benchmade griptilian, Spyderco Manix and the Endura. The benchmade was nice but I'm not a fan of the grip and the gimping. The Manix was AWESOME and the Endura was very nice too. I held a few more benchmades, though I don't remeber the models. The Spydercos seem to lock into my hand just right, while the benchmades felt more slippery. The Spyder holes also seemed to make opening easier while the thumbstuds hindered a quicker opening for me. They both felt like quality builds, just liked the ergos on the Spydercos much better. I currently have the Manix XL on the way and will most likely be ordering more Spydercos in the near future. Thanks again for all the input guys! I'll post a picture of yall like when it arrives! Maybe we should start a Spyderco Porn thread?
     

    dreadpirate

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    Mar 7, 2010
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    ... It is an older design though, the liner lock and a single lock side/tip-down clip location limit the utility and are outdated. ... the police 3 G10 is better IMO ... VG10 can hold a very sharp fine edge longer than S30V, but S30V is tougher and holds a decent working edge a lot longer, both are great steels. ... the Manix 2 XL is a better more versatile knife in most every way, broader blade, stronger tip, only downside is about 1/4" less edge, shiny polished liners and clip (black version is less noticeable and looks way better IMO) and broader in the pocket, but the grip shape is phenominal, and the lock is stronger, harder to release inadvertently, easier to release when you want to, and can be pulled to flip the knife open or closed without touching the blade.

    ^^^ I agree with the points quoted above. ^^^

    I would also recommend you look at a Paramilitary 2
     

    MattTheGunslinger

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    Jul 26, 2010
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    My Manix XL arrived today and WOW!! This blade is impressive. Grip is AMAZING! I don't think I can carry a knife without good jimping ever again. The edge is insanely sharp. The lock is smooth and solid. This knife is big! I do not regret my choise at all! The only thing I do regret is talking to you guys because now I'm hook! Now I'm looking at getting a G10 Native or Manix 2!
     

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    alucard0822

    For great Justice
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    nice:thumbsup:

    Check out the Manix2 Lightweight in S110V next. The steel is epic, and unheard of in a relatively inexpensive production folder. Weighs next to nothing, and handle shape is basically identical to the XL without the heel end hook. The locks can be a little stiff when new, the BB lock uses a coil spring and it does smooth out over time, same with the pivot, usually arrives relatively tight, but after opening it plenty you can adjust it to where you want it, I like mine to have as little friction as possible with 0 side to side bladeplay, so it flips open or closed best.

    Spydercos FRN handles are the best out there, it's not simply a cheaper alternative to G10 or other materials, it has it's own unique texture and feel, it is extremely strong too, only downside is you can't take the knife apart, but at least with the Manix2 LW and a few others the pivot is a screw and not a rivet so you can adjust it. Of course there are hundreds of other models, exclusives, limited editions, collectible and discontinued models. Spyderco is one of the few companies that just doesn't make a "bad" knife, although there are plenty that won't appeal to you, or fit your needs. The owner Sal is a supreme knife geek, and spends a lot of time on bladeforums talking knives, giving details on new stuff and tests, answering questions and fixing any problems that he hears about.
     

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