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Old July 7th, 2019, 04:47 PM #5551
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I have to agree except I'm not holding my breath on a lift of the import ban.
I'm sure not holding my breath! I don't look good in blue, purple, or dead.
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I was basing this on the $200 Russian SKSs you can buy in Canada. That's like $160 USD. Not that the first to import them would give anyone a break. I figure the price would drop as more came in. That said, I have no clue how many are still sitting in Russia or China.
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I have to agree except I'm not holding my breath on a lift of the import ban.
I hope you guys are right but i think your giving the importers/ dealers too much credit, even if they get it for 160-200 i dont think they would bother passing that savings on to us. Now if one of them bought the majority and cut the prices in half to make Some profit without gouging the rest would have no choice but I think they would sell the now 550 Russian SKS for 500 and not much lower if at all. I was just at the York show selling a gun i was into for 1100 and offering it to dealers for 900. This rifle sells for 1100-1200 online all day but I was flat out told by multiple dealers that 200-300 was not enough profit for them to make on the gun.
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... This rifle sells for 1100-1200 ....I was flat out told by multiple dealers that 200-300 was not enough profit for them to make on the gun.
daggone, I know several dealers that would be happy to make 20-30% profit, especially if they could flip it quickly.
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My hope would only work if multiple importers got lots of stock at the same time. Price would be determined by which one wanted his/her/zit investment returned the fastest. If they all come in by one importer, that guy will set the market rate.
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daggone, I know several dealers that would be happy to make 20-30% profit, especially if they could flip it quickly.
These are dealers ive dealt with in the past , they said it was a good deal just not enough profit margin for them. It just made me think about how badly we get screwed at shows and why the prices there are so damn high. One dealer towards the end did buy it off me for 850.00, i was tired of carrying it and had bought a Winchester 88 so i was shouldering two heavy guns at the time.
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I was basing this on the $200 Russian SKSs you can buy in Canada. That's like $160 USD. Not that the first to import them would give anyone a break. I figure the price would drop as more came in. That said, I have no clue how many are still sitting in Russia or China.
No idea how many other countries made, but China cranked out the most by far. Ignoring commercial examples which I think they are still making, over 24 million...

I donít think the Soviets continued making them other than a few export once they formally switched over to the AK and hadnít ramped up to fully re-equip from the Mosin Nagant post WWII. I assume a few million, but weíll under 10 millions.

Iíd assume commonality of long guns runs Mosin Nagants, AK, AR-15 and SKS. Gw98/K98 and derivatives of those probably is number 1 or 2, but that isnít really one gun. Especially when you look at the various caliber derivatives.
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No idea how many other countries made, but China cranked out the most by far. Ignoring commercial examples which I think they are still making, over 24 million...

I don’t think the Soviets continued making them other than a few export once they formally switched over to the AK and hadn’t ramped up to fully re-equip from the Mosin Nagant post WWII. I assume a few million, but we’ll under 10 millions.
For all intents an purposes, China appears to have halted new type56 production in 1984.

Anything commercial that was "made" after 1984 was assembled from the massive cache of leftover parts from 3 decades of production at nearly 200 facilities throughout china.

Average yearly production for the Chinese type56 was the same as the Soviets-- about 250K-300k per year. 29 years (1956-1984) of production would put Chinese production in the 7.25-8.5million total.

Soviets made about 2.7million total.

Yugoslavia produced fewer than 800,000

and the other variants-- E. Germany, Romania, N.Korea, N.Vietnam, and Albania-- were in the sub100k ranges
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