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Old June 19th, 2019, 10:40 AM #1
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Need help to identify powder

Many years ago when I didn't know better I bought gunshow ammo in baggies. I never fired them and have been disassembling for componets. The powder that I'm discarding is a type I am not familiar with. It looks like the root beer barrels type candy. It rolls around like a barrel. It doesn't look like ball powder. If I figure out the powder I might be able to guess if has a standard or magnum primer.

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I wouldn't trust that stuff. I'm sure it'd be lovely sprinkled over a campfire.
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More info. This is LC brass 5.56. That should narrow the list. Powder is being discarded.
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Sprinkle on yard or garden. A great fertilizer.
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I plan to dispose of the powder. My question is what does the powder resemble i.e. manufacturer. It looks like a chopped extruded powder or a barrel under 7x magnification. If I decide to reuse the primed case, would it favor a standard or magnum primer. I am familar with ball type BLC/H335/Accurate but not the extruded for a 5.56 case. I will inspect i.e case head, guage etc. A primed pull down case as it were. Unable to discern if the the primer pocket has been suaged. No primer sealer I can see so I am treating it as a gunshow reload.
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Numerous different examples of extruded powders are available under the Hodgdon, IMR and Alliant labels, as well as others and also propriety sources. I could probably name 40 and maybe more extruded varieties , and there are additional sources providing product I'm not familiar with.

You are wise to dispose of the powder as you have no truly valid way short of a lab of knowing just exactly what you might have. In short, though some possibilities are perhaps much more likely than others, there's still a whole bunch of possibilities.

Regarding your remaining primed cases, the presence of an extruded powder would make me lean toward the primer being standard. That said, it would be my guess, and it's strictly a guess.

If you intend to use the primed cases, I'd be very cautious to begin with starting loads of known newly purchased powder. And starting loads to help to offset the fact that you don't know what primer you have. Especially given your unknown primers, it's best to work with suggested starting loads, and work up from there. It's recommended practice to begin with recommended starting charges in any event , even with entirely known components.
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If you are planning to re-use the primed brass, remove the decapping pin before sizing the case. Primer should still be good to go. Once you start using new primers, standard is good enough. Note, I do use Russian small rifle magnum primers with my loads. They were cheap, work well and I have a lot of them.
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http://www.ilrc.ucf.edu/powders/search.php
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Factory loaded ammo frequently ( usually ) uses non-canister powders, which may or may not have vaguely close counterparts in consumer canister powder.
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