Maryland State Police is hiring

POP57 said:

Just for grins, I pulled this off the Delaware State Police page.

Competitive salary - During training $46,335. After training, $54,927.
Excellent pension plan - (Mandatory retirement at 55, the option to retire at 20 years, further details are available upon request or should be referred to the Pension Office and/or their website)
12-hour shifts with option of standby status for court.
State-share health insurance.
Division-issued equipment and uniforms, with dry cleaning delivered to the troop.
Liberal vacation and sick leave.
College tuition assistance.
Take-home car with state-of-the-art information technology after 18 months.
Deferred Compensation/Investment Plan.
Tax-deferred medical/child care program.
Blood Bank membership.
Eligible membership for employee's credit union.

http://dsp.delaware.gov/dsp_recruiting_requirements.shtml

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Easier to pay more and provide better bennies when there are only ten......

nmyers said:

Keep in mind, police & fire personnel have the highest divorce rate of all occupations. Shift work, OT, hold over shifts, mandatory work on holidays --- it all takes a toll on a family.

If you think MSP salaries are low, try working for the State Fire Marshal's Office.

And, county & local police can usually buy a house within a reasonable distance, & be pretty sure that this will be able to live there & send their kids to the same schools without worrying about a transfer to somewhere a couple of hundred miles away.

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You forgot to mention Corrections...who I believe has a higher rate of divorce and suicide than either of those.

Name Taken said:

Most are going to be 21-25 year olds. You can't make due off of that starting salary?

I'd look at their pay scale as well....they certainly don't max out at that 46k.

Folks aren't typically asked to raise a family on 46k..they are asked to start and working 2 years before they get a raise...and work 1 more years before a raise. Then another for a raise...then maybe once you get to ten work 3 years before a raise. Toss out getting a promotion, department O/T, and part time jobs.

While certainly not over paid there are plenty of folks in Western MD and the Eastern Shore who aren't making 50k and are raising a family. A bit tougher in Baltimore but like I said...most are 21-25 year olds.

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For the most part...when I went through the process in 2010, there were quite a few of us that were in our 30s and 40s. Out of the 60 of us that did the physical fitness assessment, 45 passed and none of us "older" guys failed. I went through the whole process and would've started in the fall of 2011. I took a job with MD DOC in April of that year because I had two very small children and needed a job ASAP. At times I regret not going through with MSP, at other times I'm kinda glad I didn't seeing as how things are today with the BS that LEOs have to deal with from BLM types

East2West said:

If you are responsible you can most certainly raise a family on a state troopers salary. Maybe you aren't familiar with their pay steps, but 46k isn't the start and finish pay. I guess though if that salary is what's keeping you from the job you probably aren't what they're looking for.

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My salary is 42k/year right now and my wife HAS to work in order for us to survive. Believe me...just surviving isn't living. Another year or two we hope to be in a lot better position. We don't have a big fancy house, I drive a 15 year old car with 230k miles on it and a 14 year old truck w/ over 100k on it. We have one new vehicle in which we lease and the payment is reasonable. One could probably raise a family on 46k...but it would be difficult unless your house was paid for and you didn't have many other bills.

Doobie said:

My salary is 42k/year right now and my wife HAS to work in order for us to survive. Believe me...just surviving isn't living. Another year or two we hope to be in a lot better position. We don't have a big fancy house, I drive a 15 year old car with 230k miles on it and a 14 year old truck w/ over 100k on it. We have one new vehicle in which we lease and the payment is reasonable. One could probably raise a family on 46k...but it would be difficult unless your house was paid for and you didn't have many other bills.

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Thank you, I was trying to put into words without being an *******, given the "responsible" comment. My car is an 04, has 245,000 miles on it, my wife also HAS to work, we work split shifts so one of us is home with the baby. We own a modest home, we bought for 192,000.

All I was getting at is that it is not a line of work for people with responsibilities and that are already further in life.

Several friends are troopers. One has a family with two kids and they all seem to be doing just fine. But they also live in areas where housing cost is lower. Some of them work crazy shifts and hours though, a bit of a frantic schedule.

Ok I'll speak up, I'm 5 years on with MSP own a small house, have 2 children, one car (plus 1 MSP car) and my wife does not work. I work plenty of easy OT and pick up part time gigs here and there. I'm doing just fine. If your not buying big trucks and homes you can afford to live in the salary. MSP has pleny of OT if your willing to sit at the MVA all day or do SHA assignments. In the academy it's rough to pay bills and a mortgage. I was 30 when I joined so mu outlook was different then the younger 20-25 year olds. It's actually a great job and career but you better have a good grasp of your finances or your going to struggle. The salary and the academy will weed out the ones who don't really want to become troopers. Despite the salary the MSP still manages to find dedicated and quality personnel.

kgain673 said:

Ok I'll speak up, I'm 5 years on with MSP own a small house, have 2 children, one car (plus 1 MSP car) and my wife does not work. I work plenty of easy OT and pick up part time gigs here and there. I'm doing just fine. If your not buying big trucks and homes you can afford to live in the salary. MSP has pleny of OT if your willing to sit at the MVA all day or do SHA assignments. In the academy it's rough to pay bills and a mortgage. I was 30 when I joined so mu outlook was different then the younger 20-25 year olds. It's actually a great job and career but you better have a good grasp of your finances or your going to struggle. The salary and the academy will weed out the ones who don't really want to become troopers. Despite the salary the MSP still manages to find dedicated and quality personnel.

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I'm glad to hearing you are making it. Thanks for your service. Just curious, the age range said 21 to 59. Are there are actual applicants in their 50's coming on board?

Sealion said:

I'm glad to hearing you are making it. Thanks for your service. Just curious, the age range said 21 to 59. Are there are actual applicants in their 50's coming on board?

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Sure are. You would be surprised there are quite a few applicants who are retired military vets, and applicants who are entering law enforcement as a second career. Older applicants who can meet the physical demands of the test and academy usually make great troopers who bring a lifetime of professionalism and expirence to the workplace. They get in less trouble and don't usually need to learn lessons the "hard way" after graduating from the academy.

Stoveman said:

Easier to pay more and provide better bennies when there are only ten......

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You must have looked at old information. DSP has 20 officers now.

To bad they don't have some sort of lateral "experience equals pay scale steps" kinda thing going. Probably attract some good people from the private world if the pay was more equal to the job they had or even got credit for degrees.

TD

nmyers said:

If you think MSP salaries are low, try working for the State Fire Marshal's Office.

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The State Fire Marshal's Office is part of MSP. Or did you mean Troopers' salaries versus OSFM staff?

Fox123 said:

Thank you, I was trying to put into words without being an *******, given the "responsible" comment. My car is an 04, has 245,000 miles on it, my wife also HAS to work, we work split shifts so one of us is home with the baby. We own a modest home, we bought for 192,000.

All I was getting at is that it is not a line of work for people with responsibilities and that are already further in life.

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You're welcome sir My wife and I work opposite shifts too due to our small children. We bought ours for $147k...seriously considering putting it up for sale after a few things are fixed so we can get out of this communist state and hopefully lighten our debt load some more.

kgain673 said:

Ok I'll speak up, I'm 5 years on with MSP own a small house, have 2 children, one car (plus 1 MSP car) and my wife does not work. I work plenty of easy OT and pick up part time gigs here and there. I'm doing just fine. If your not buying big trucks and homes you can afford to live in the salary. MSP has pleny of OT if your willing to sit at the MVA all day or do SHA assignments. In the academy it's rough to pay bills and a mortgage. I was 30 when I joined so mu outlook was different then the younger 20-25 year olds. It's actually a great job and career but you better have a good grasp of your finances or your going to struggle. The salary and the academy will weed out the ones who don't really want to become troopers. Despite the salary the MSP still manages to find dedicated and quality personnel.

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And there we have it...straight from the horse's mouth Thank you for what you do sir. Very good and valid points. I have several friends who are troopers with MSP and they do well with OT. I was always told to never count on OT because its not always guaranteed. When I left MD state corrections for the Feds, that became a reality. I went from making $2500+ paychecks (64-80hrs OT) to no OT and making less than $1,000.

kgain673 said:

Sure are. You would be surprised there are quite a few applicants who are retired military vets, and applicants who are entering law enforcement as a second career. Older applicants who can meet the physical demands of the test and academy usually make great troopers who bring a lifetime of professionalism and expirence to the workplace. They get in less trouble and don't usually need to learn lessons the "hard way" after graduating from the academy.

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Grandfather volunteers for scenarios at the academy, some of the stories I've heard are amazing. It's an incredible academy, well known all over.

In comparison the Baltimore County Fire Department hires EMTs at the starting salary of $35K. I started in '84 at 16K, after 27 years I left with a very nice retirement with full benefits.

Also this MSP Cadet is open if you know someone who isn't 21 years old yet. My son is a Cadet.
http://www.jobaps.com/MD/sup/bulpreview.asp?R1=16&R2=005218&R3=0001

following.

I'm not sure about the pay rates but I know that if Troopers don't get in trouble, Trooper First Class (TFC) comes along pretty much automatically and that comes with a raise. A friend's son is a Trooper and has already been promoted to Sergeant within 10 years. Granted he is a sharp kid and has his act together but you are not constantly hearing about troopers getting jammed up over stupid stuff. Some of you might say that they don't see the action that guys in the urban departments (Baltimore, Baltimore County, AA and PG counties) do but when the crap hits the fan, their back up is miles away, not minutes.

2015 pay scale for MDSP:
http://www.dbm.maryland.gov/employees/Documents/SalaryInfo/statednrpolice.pdf

Top cop makes $148k

Looks generally like mid career folks, cpl, sgts, lts are making 70-90k.

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MarylandState PoliceNatural ResourcesPoliceBASESTEPSTEPSTEPSTEPSTEPSTEPSTEPSTEPSTEPSTEPSTEPSTEPSTEPSTEPSTEPSTEPSTEPSTEP123456789101112131415161718Candidate 0050Candidate 0080$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000$35,000Trooper 0051Officer 0081$46,000 $46,690 $49,258 $51,967 $54,825 $57,841 $59,287 $60,769 $62,288 $63,845 $65,441 $67,078 $68,754 $70,473 $72,235 $74,041 $75,892 $77,789 $82,068 Trooper 1st Class 0052Officer 1st Class 0082$49,220 $49,958 $52,706 $55,605 $58,663 $61,890 $63,437 $65,023 $66,648 $68,315 $70,022 $71,773 $73,567 $75,406 $77,292 $79,224 $81,204 $83,235 $87,812 Senior Trooper 0053Senior Officer 0083$50,204 $50,957 $53,760 $56,717 $59,836 $63,127 $64,706 $66,323 $67,981 $69,681 $71,423 $73,208 $75,039 $76,915 $78,837 $80,808 $82,829 $84,899 $89,569 Master Trooper 0054Master Officer 0084$51,208 $51,977 $54,835 $57,851 $61,033 $64,390 $66,000 $67,650 $69,341 $71,074 $72,851 $74,673 $76,539 $78,453 $80,414 $82,425 $84,485 $86,597 $91,360 Corporal 0055Corporal 0085$52,745 $53,536 $56,480 $59,587 $62,864 $66,322 $67,980 $69,679 $71,421 $73,207 $75,037 $76,913 $78,836 $80,806 $82,827 $84,897 $87,020 $89,195 $94,101 Sergeant 0056Sergeant 0086$56,437 $57,283 $60,434 $63,758 $67,265 $70,964 $72,738 $74,557 $76,421 $78,331 $80,289 $82,297 $84,354 $86,463 $88,624 $90,840 $93,111 $95,439 $100,688 1st Sergeant 0057$60,387 $61,293 $64,664 $68,221 $71,973 $75,932 $77,830 $79,776 $81,770 $83,814 $85,910 $88,057 $90,259 $92,515 $94,828 $97,199 $99,629 $102,120 $107,736 Lieutenant 0087$64,259 $65,223 $68,811 $72,596 $76,588 $80,801 $82,821 $84,891 $87,014 $89,189 $91,419 $93,704 $96,047 $98,448 $100,909 $103,432 $106,018 $108,668 $114,645 Lieutenant 0058Captain 0088$67,634 $68,648 $72,424 $76,407 $80,610 $85,043 $87,169 $89,349 $91,582 $93,872 $96,219 $98,624 $101,090 $103,617 $106,208 $108,863 $111,584 $114,374 $120,664 Captain 0059Major 0089$72,368 $73,454 $77,494 $81,756 $86,253 $90,996 $93,271 $95,603 $97,993 $100,443 $102,954 $105,528 $108,166 $110,870 $113,642 $116,483 $119,395 $122,380 $129,111 Major 0060Lieutenant Colonel 0090$77,434 $78,596 $82,918 $87,479 $92,290 $97,366 $99,800 $102,295 $104,853 $107,474 $110,161 $112,915 $115,738 $118,631 $121,597 $124,637 $127,753 $130,947 $138,149 Lieutenant Colonel 0061Superintendent 0091$82,854 $84,097 $88,723 $93,602 $98,751 $104,182 $106,786 $109,456 $112,192 $114,997 $117,872 $120,819 $123,839 $126,935 $130,109 $133,362 $136,696 $140,113 $147,819 Annual Rates Effective Jan 1, 2015 STATE OF MARYLANDSTATE AND NATURAL RESOURCES POLICE SALARY SCHEDULE

That cleared things right up, thanks!